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For Bronco Owners, people are getting really pissed of the build quality. So Wagoneer's "misaligned panels" is nothing compared to Bronco...That last Pic could end up with serious Rust issues.
Our Wrangler Unlimited has 0 fit and finish issues. I've read several reviews and the Wrangler's materials, stereo and fit and finish are superior. I'm sure Ford will eventually improve the assembly quality but the cheap looking materials are just that no matter how well it might be assembled. Oh, BTW our much maligned (on this board) Compass was also assembled beautifully with good looking materials and fitment.
 

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Correction it is a thread about fit and finish on Wagoneers. You know, a vehicle that costs as much as a house. For that price it should be near perfect.
Whatever the price point a vehicle should be well assembled.
 

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See post #150.
It's a literal Jeep thing people expected to be done right.
By FCA.
The same company they've spent years critiquing.
They took away the badge, they didn't take away the fact it's still a Jeep, and it's what people should've already expected.
Also, "sans" in that case meant the exception. Everyone expects every automaker, except the 'status symbols', to have kinks in them. No one cares about the 6 figure status symbols anymore; they didn't even care when they were burning to the ground. The comment was to point reference to everyone else, like Toyota and Jeep.
The status symbols DO have kinks in them. Nothing is perfect. I recall a friend of a friend had an AMG Mercedes that ate a transmission AND an AC compressor in the first 6 months. My neighbor's Audi has disappeared from her driveway several times in the year she's owned it for a couple of weeks at a time with a different vehicle taking it's place for that period.

Price point doesn't matter. If am spending $20K or $100K on a car, I expect it to be well made and reliable.
 

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I do know enough people who bought Mercedes and BMW and Audi cars to know they are not exactly perfect... but Jeep has to do better because it doesn't have decades of cumulative snottery.
"cumulative snottery". I was literally LOL. I am so stealing that.
 

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I've seen worse. Not great but you might not notice that looking at it casually.

I remember back in the day as a teenager seeing a Ford Fairmont with a Mercury Zephyr rear end at a dealership. No idea how that one got through.
 
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