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How a cheap component could help kill off combustion cars

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3.9K views 23 replies 11 participants last post by  Dave Z  
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What I see going on, looking at the past few years ... It is the electronic chips that control the cars.
As these chips have not been available to purchase for the last few years .... New cars & trucks production has came to a stand still. .... New car lots have been empty except for the used cars they have managed to bring in.

We first need to correct these issues, then maybe address the wiring issues .... Nothing we can do with current issues.
 
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If I'm a carmaker, a wiring harness shortage might cause me to make fewer of a model I'm already phasing out, but in some cases it could cause me to extend the model's life to recoup more of my fixed costs.

A harness shortage is certainly not going to prevent me from continuing to build an IC car that's got 5 or 6 years left. What'd make me switch faster would be lower costs and thus more buyers for EV power trains and charging stations.
 
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The major chip problem is because of the fact that most automotive electronics is based on older ic´s/ components and they have not coped with the electronics developement.
 
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That's not really so - we are experiencing shortages of EVERYTHING - connectors, capacitors, resistors, diodes, newer FPGFAs, even cooling fans are out to 60 weeks.
 
owns 2011 Chrysler 200 Limited
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I think some of you are missing the main point of the story, it's the war in Ukraine hindering the wiring harnesses for cars:

"Ukrainian government figures show 22 automotive companies have invested more than $600 million in 38 plants - many, though not all producing wire harnesses - employing over 60,000 Ukrainians."

 
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No the main point of the story is that somehow wiring harness procurement issues are somehow going to cause problems for gasoline cars, but mysteriously not for electric cars. It’s a rather odd conclusion and makes the whole article worthless.
 
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The same story from multiple sources, but it does appear to be limited to affecting car makers across the pond, and not so much in the US:




 
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The war in Ukraine seriously hurt German automakers because they did rely heavily on Ukrainian plants which are now inoperable.
Just like American automakers were disproportionately affected by the Texas freeze.
South Korea has been laughing its way through all this.
 
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Whenever global capacity is reduced, prices and lead times will be affected, since other countries directly affected may compete for the manufacturing capacity that you use.
 
owns 2011 Chrysler 200 Limited
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There is a difference between those articles. Most of them were clear that this was on part that affected mostly German automakers.
This particular one was worse because it pretended that it was somehow a gasoline-engine thing.