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I have to see it in person. The photos provided so far are not enough.
The Chrysler brand has spent an awful lot of time being... just there. With no respect or desire to find it's identity. Heck, the 300 name was reintroduced with the 300m, which wasn't even intended to be a Chrysler to begin with (somewhere, there is a picture of this car with an eagle badge). The T&C has served Chrysler well from a sales perspective. As for everything else, it always feels like they say "Oh... I guess so". Hey, so we just killed Eagle, what do we do with the new Vision - "Ohhhh. I guess make it a Chrysler." Hey, we just killed Plymouth, what do we do with the Prowler? "Ohhh.. I guess call it a Chrysler.." Hey, we just killed Plymouth, and we have the PT Cruiser which just so happens to perfectly match the design language of the Prowler, and the last 4 Plymouth Concepts we've shown, what do we do with it "Ohhhh. I guess call it a Chrysler, and drum up some fudge on what PT doesn't mean". Sebring "I guess so". The brand has largely simply become a holding place.jimboy said:Having said that, just GUESS how I feel about the whoring of the 300 nameplate. Many people on this forum tend to dismiss Chrysler's value as a company, referring constantly to how Jeep saved Chrysler. Here's a newsflash folks, if Chrysler had not purchased Jeep it would now be a GM brand called Hummer, and guess where your beloved brand would be today!
We all know that ugly don't kill the vehicle. People still buy tons of Oddities and Siennas. Still by mass amounts of Camrys (not repulsive, but hardly attractive). And Honda has had no trouble selling many of it's peculiar offerings. Had decent sales of the Excrem - I mean Element. That said, most ugly vehicles have been more Niche - the Juke, Cube, the FJ Cruiser or most of the Scions. Most of them aren't huge sellers, more over Chrysler doesn't have the luxury of being able to sell garbage with it's label (Ahem, Honyota).SouthPawXJ said:My opinion has changed somewhat. I thought it looked really awful at first. Seeing the official pictures and seeing it routinely over the last few days, I am of the opinion that it isn't as bad as first thought, but still leaves A LOT to be desired. I don't think it will sell as well as Jeep would like down the road. I do believe it will sell well initially IF they bring it to market properly (unlike the Dart).
Only change is constantbumonbox said:The Chrysler brand has spent an awful lot of time being... just there. With no respect or desire to find it's identity. Heck, the 300 name was reintroduced with the 300m, which wasn't even intended to be a Chrysler to begin with (somewhere, there is a picture of this car with an eagle badge). The T&C has served Chrysler well from a sales perspective. As for everything else, it always feels like they say "Oh... I guess so". Hey, so we just killed Eagle, what do we do with the new Vision - "Ohhhh. I guess make it a Chrysler." Hey, we just killed Plymouth, what do we do with the Prowler? "Ohhh.. I guess call it a Chrysler.." Hey, we just killed Plymouth, and we have the PT Cruiser which just so happens to perfectly match the design language of the Prowler, and the last 4 Plymouth Concepts we've shown, what do we do with it "Ohhhh. I guess call it a Chrysler, and drum up some fudge on what PT doesn't mean". Sebring "I guess so". The brand has largely simply become a holding place.
I already like the European design and feel of the Escape given that it mimics it's arch rival-the Tiguan, just as the Escape's platform mate-the Focus mimics it's arch rival in Europe-the Golf, the Focus sedan mimicking the Jetta, and the GTI being the arch rival to the Focus ST. The Volkswagen Polo is also the Ford Fiesta's B-segment arch rival in Europe.CJDsalespro said:If you are on this site you are a Mopar enthusiasts. We make up less than 20% of the true buying populace. On this site...Of Jeep owners my guess is that 30+% would consider themselves Jeepers. People that actually take their Jeeps off-road. Whilst less than 10% of "new Jeep " Liberty buyers were "Jeepers" or would ever consider taking their Jeeps off-road. That number is much higher for Wrangler . I recall having similar conversations when the 2011 Chrysler 300 was introduced. Owners of past 300's and members of this site called it "ugly, boring, not as bad [I should have my mouth washed out with soap for using such terms]...etc"
The question is…..Is it better than, Does it have a nicer interior, more space, better ride and handling, equal or better fuel economy(and yes superior off road capability than….?
the competition
Tucson
Escape
Rav 4
Mazda Cx5
VW Tiguan
BMW X3
Range Rover Evoque
Technically, the KL Cherokee doesn't have a transfer case.Truck451 said:Too bad it isn't likely that the transfer case will have a neutral position. Maybe we'll be suprised and it will turn out that the transfer case actually has a neutral position.
Uhh.. Not a concept. It's the 2014 Cherokee. Not the Grand.This is a concept photo.. The 2014 Grand Cherokee does not have the 6 light front end.... Google has the correct photos as displayed on Chrysler's site.