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Headline...."NASCAR to order more coffin nails for Cup Series!"
I'm not so sure about that. I presume that this means that everybody will be using the same chassis (a la Indy Car) which should cut the necessary expenditures for the individual team chassis shops. It will also make the chassis cost the same for every team and no one will (legally) be able to deviate. After this change, Nascar might be willing to allow more stock block type motors as they would no longer have to scrutinize the individual shop chassis builds and could concentrate on equalizing the various motor outputs. There are persistent rumors that Nascar (and the manufacturers) want to race some form of the motors that they build for the street. Of course, rumors are just that - rumors. Nascar could just as easily require "spec" motors to be run in the new "spec" chassis and then it probably would end up being the final nail in their coffin.
 

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Not much will really be lost since whoever is fired while possibly be rehired or someone else in their place will be rehired for the dallara chassis.
 

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Rick Hendrick confirms spec chassis for Gen 7 Cup Car on DJD today



We've all the seen the various reports and rumors about maybe Dallara building the cars for Gen 7, but that's about it. No real concrete words from any owners or officials other than that the car is going to cost less and look more like a street car.

Today on DJD Rick Hendrick said, "...its a car you're going to buy all the pieces from somebody else. You don't need engineering to build the chassis - somebody (else) is gonna build the chassis. Instead of 15, 20, or 30 different chassis out there, everybody is gonna have one chassis. And the bodies are going to be flange-fit..."

So maybe this doesn't confirm WHO is gonna build them, but this all but confirms spec chassis and flange-fit composite bodies like we have in Xfinity are coming with Gen 7. He also mentioned that if everything goes to plan that you could use one chassis for many different races. Kind of reminded me of back in the CoT days when NASCAR said that you could use a speedway car at a road course etc., but as we all know that never happened.
 

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Not much will really be lost since whoever is fired while possibly be rehired or someone else in their place will be rehired for the dallara chassis.
And I would bet money that Dallara isn't building these chassis in Indiana, they'll do it in Mooresville or Concord. Production will be near the teams and the R&D center, not hours away. I'm sure some of these people will end up working for Dallara.

I'm anxious to see how a spec chassis affects the racing. The good teams will still be good, but will a spec chassis and body bring the lower tier teams closer to the front? If the rumors of independent rear suspension are true, the teams with sports car experience are going to have a head start at first. Watch out for a team like Ganassi to be fast out of the gate with the gen 7.

If a new manufacturer wants in, nows the time to be getting things set up. NASCAR seems adamant that at least one more is going to be on the grid by 2022, potentially more. If Dodge or Kia or Honda or whoever wants in, they'd better be involved to some degree in the gen 7 development.
 

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Not much will really be lost since whoever is fired while possibly be rehired or someone else in their place will be rehired for the dallara chassis.
Dallara chassis will have a streamlined process and turn out chassis in cookie cutter fashion.
It'll be like a production line. May even have robotics involved.
 

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How ironic. Italian chassis builder building for Nascar, and an Italian car builder not involved. That there's funny.
if FCA had plans to get involved this might make sense!
But what has happened to NASCAR, it surely ain't what it used to be.
 
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NASCAR will be like slot cars. One mechanical part that drives and controls the functions, and a shell that can be repaired and changed at a whim. I can even see the day when shells could be swapped mid-race if one manufacturer out-bids the other. How exciting to be able to install an injection-molded Hongqi body shell on a computer balanced and equalized power module! The government of China could then spend almost the entire racing budget on a glib, photogenic driver fresh out of charm school to make the team a winner right out of the box!

First they remove factory engineers and stylists from the equation, then its goodbye to creative owners and hard-nosed drivers, then it was the specialist independent fabricators, and now the cars will be modular twins built by robots on a production line. Of course, no one will ever be allowed to say that sameness destroys the thrill of building and being the best of the class. As long as you can still cheer for a decal, NASCAR will say they have exciting "racing" and the best show in town.

What's next? Thoroughbred racing where all entries must be cloned from one animal? Just dye the animals a different color and no one will be the wiser. It would sure make things easier and less expensive for billionaire owners and a handful of clueless fans.

I only hope a summer curling season is available to watch when the experts get done fornicatiing auto racing.
 

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Just FYI....

1974: 3 different chassis

Mercury - coils in front, leafs in back.
Chevy - coils all around.
Dodge - torsion bars and leafs in back.

Add to that: 3 different body styles, 3 different engines with different bores and strokes, 3 different rear ends....

Results - 10 wins each.

Isn't progress fun? :rolleyes:
 

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One thing the team all said they wanted to fix was the cost associated with running a super speedway, a road circuit, and smaller speedways. They all said it was killing them. They had to either have totally different cars for each style of racing, or spend time and money and parts converting one car between each configuration.

I am sure that is one thing this will accomplish is equalizing, and reducing those costs. The teams are driving this, not NASCAR (is what I suspect), and the teams are screaming for NASCAR to reduce the cost it takes to get a car to the track, ready to race, compete, and hopefully win.
 

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I guess that's progress. True race enthusiasts will wind up where they started 65 years ago...illegal street racing lightly modified production cars. Here in the NY metro area we lost our last drag strip (Englishtown) and if you want real drag racing you need to drive to New Hampshire. No thanks. So much for progress.
 

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I guess that's progress. True race enthusiasts will wind up where they started 65 years ago...illegal street racing lightly modified production cars. Here in the NY metro area we lost our last drag strip (Englishtown) and if you want real drag racing you need to drive to New Hampshire. No thanks. So much for progress.
This is quite a stretch. To think that moving to a new generation of race vehicle in NASCAR is going to cause "true race enthusiasts" to turn to street racing is laughable.

I ran in the import street racing group of guys in highschool and not one of them cared the thing about NASCAR. I have friends today that drag race muscle cars. And those cars might have a stock style body but they are very advanced technologically than they were when new. Custom suspension, fuel injection, forced induction, etc... These cars aren't stock either. Technology moves ahead, like it or not.

I keep hearing guys about the 'good ole days' in NASCAR, back when the second place car was 4 laps down. These are the good ole days, as far as close competition goes.
 
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