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This may be first official photograph of the new FIAT500X was leaked in Australia. This is the car that will share many components with the future "Italian" Jeep. Or is it just another photoshopped rendering?

 

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Looks a LOT like the Buick Encore / Opel Mokka … I guess all the automakers are anticipating that the mini CUV market is about to blow up.
 

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Looks a LOT like the Buick Encore / Opel Mokka … I guess all the automakers are anticipating that the mini CUV market is about to blow up.
That's cause it it a Buick Encore photoshopped. No official pic here.
 

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Looks a LOT like the Buick Encore / Opel Mokka … I guess all the automakers are anticipating that the mini CUV market is about to blow up.
Do the Buick Encore / Opel Mokka have any Fiat ancestry?
 

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Encore/Mokka is on the GM Gamma II or GSV (Global Small Vehicle) architecture - as will be the Opel Corsa E.

The pre-cursor to Gamma II was Gamma/GM4200, and the Opel Corsa C was on that. Prior to that, the Opel Corsa A and B were on GM4200.

In between Gamma and Gamma II, the Opel Corsa D was developed on the SCCS platform - along with the Fiat Grande Punto. SCCS shared nothing with Gamma/GM4300. The Alfa Romeo MiTo is also on SCCS, as are other models. In the Fiat/GM breakup, both GM and Fiat were allowed to take the SCCS and use it as they wished.

If Wikipedia is to be believed, the current incarnation of SCCS is what will be under the 500L, 500X, and the B-Jeep.

I cannot confirm if GM's Gamma II is a modified/modernized SCCS.
 

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Encore/Mokka is on the GM Gamma II or GSV (Global Small Vehicle) architecture - as will be the Opel Corsa E.

The pre-cursor to Gamma II was Gamma/GM4200, and the Opel Corsa C was on that. Prior to that, the Opel Corsa A and B were on GM4200.

In between Gamma and Gamma II, the Opel Corsa D was developed on the SCCS platform - along with the Fiat Grande Punto. SCCS shared nothing with Gamma/GM4300. The Alfa Romeo MiTo is also on SCCS, as are other models. In the Fiat/GM breakup, both GM and Fiat were allowed to take the SCCS and use it as they wished.

If Wikipedia is to be believed, the current incarnation of SCCS is what will be under the 500L, 500X, and the B-Jeep.

I cannot confirm if GM's Gamma II is a modified/modernized SCCS.
Thank You for the info. Really hoping the Jeep version of the 500X is a lot edgier because all these small CUV's look too much alike.

http://www.allaboutauto.us/wp-content/uploads/HLIC/fordfiesta.jpg

http://www.dieselstation.com/pics/Kia-Rio-2012-car-pics.jpg

http://www.diariomotor.com/imagenes/2013/01/posts/honda-urban-suv-concept-02-dm-700px.jpg
 

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Thank You for the info. Really hoping the Jeep version of the 500X is a lot edgier because all these small CUV's look too much alike.
They have made Liberkee(r), Compass and Grand Cherokee look alike as well. A big mistake IMO.
 

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It doesn't matter if the pic is official or not.
It will look like all the other ones out there. That's the stylist's modus operandi these days.
 

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It doesn't matter if the pic is official or not.
It will look like all the other ones out there. That's the stylist's modus operandi these days.
It's because of two things:
1. Aerodynamics
2.The rules protecting pedestrians in a collision
It will be a while before we seen a new trend in car design.
 

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tryphon said:
tryphon, on 18 Feb 2013 - 12:06, said:
It's because of two things:
1. Aerodynamics
2.The rules protecting pedestrians in a collision
It will be a while before we seen a new trend in car design.
There might be a shortage of imagination out there as well.
 

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There might be a shortage of imagination out there as well
I think that's 90%.

Consider grilles. Look at the standard grilles -- all one shape, basically. Oh, Lexus now has a >< thing instead of the standard trapezoid, but... then there's Ford and its line of razors, also imitated now... it's like in the 1980s we had "hide the grille" styling and in the 1970s it was the "formal style" and in the 1960s the spartan reaction to the 1950s' excesses... and of course the late 1950s cars do blend together if you are not thoroughly acquainted with the period already. (Show kids a 1958 car from each of the big three and they'll see 'em as old-timers see the current crop.)

There's a degree of truth to "functional requirements dictate form" but only in the most general sense.
 

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unverferth said:
It doesn't matter if the pic is official or not.
It will look like all the other ones out there. That's the stylist's modus operandi these days.
True but the 500's styling is actually one of the most distinctive out there. That's also why it tends to polarize opinions. Personally I like it, even though sometimes is a bit too quirky I found that it grows on you over time. Btw this is the only official pic:
 

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Oh lord! I truly hope not, that's terrible!
Sorry, just my 2c of course.
 
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