Looks a LOT like the Buick Encore / Opel Mokka … I guess all the automakers are anticipating that the mini CUV market is about to blow up.
Italian Jeep's sister....
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That's cause it it a Buick Encore photoshopped. No official pic here.proun91 said:Looks a LOT like the Buick Encore / Opel Mokka … I guess all the automakers are anticipating that the mini CUV market is about to blow up.
So you have any comparison pics?jazz77 said:That's cause it it a Buick Encore photoshopped. No official pic here.
Do the Buick Encore / Opel Mokka have any Fiat ancestry?proun91 said:Looks a LOT like the Buick Encore / Opel Mokka … I guess all the automakers are anticipating that the mini CUV market is about to blow up.
Encore/Mokka is on the GM Gamma II or GSV (Global Small Vehicle) architecture - as will be the Opel Corsa E.
The pre-cursor to Gamma II was Gamma/GM4200, and the Opel Corsa C was on that. Prior to that, the Opel Corsa A and B were on GM4200.
In between Gamma and Gamma II, the Opel Corsa D was developed on the SCCS platform - along with the Fiat Grande Punto. SCCS shared nothing with Gamma/GM4300. The Alfa Romeo MiTo is also on SCCS, as are other models. In the Fiat/GM breakup, both GM and Fiat were allowed to take the SCCS and use it as they wished.
If Wikipedia is to be believed, the current incarnation of SCCS is what will be under the 500L, 500X, and the B-Jeep.
I cannot confirm if GM's Gamma II is a modified/modernized SCCS.
The pre-cursor to Gamma II was Gamma/GM4200, and the Opel Corsa C was on that. Prior to that, the Opel Corsa A and B were on GM4200.
In between Gamma and Gamma II, the Opel Corsa D was developed on the SCCS platform - along with the Fiat Grande Punto. SCCS shared nothing with Gamma/GM4300. The Alfa Romeo MiTo is also on SCCS, as are other models. In the Fiat/GM breakup, both GM and Fiat were allowed to take the SCCS and use it as they wished.
If Wikipedia is to be believed, the current incarnation of SCCS is what will be under the 500L, 500X, and the B-Jeep.
I cannot confirm if GM's Gamma II is a modified/modernized SCCS.
Thank You for the info. Really hoping the Jeep version of the 500X is a lot edgier because all these small CUV's look too much alike.Stratuscaster said:Encore/Mokka is on the GM Gamma II or GSV (Global Small Vehicle) architecture - as will be the Opel Corsa E.
The pre-cursor to Gamma II was Gamma/GM4200, and the Opel Corsa C was on that. Prior to that, the Opel Corsa A and B were on GM4200.
In between Gamma and Gamma II, the Opel Corsa D was developed on the SCCS platform - along with the Fiat Grande Punto. SCCS shared nothing with Gamma/GM4300. The Alfa Romeo MiTo is also on SCCS, as are other models. In the Fiat/GM breakup, both GM and Fiat were allowed to take the SCCS and use it as they wished.
If Wikipedia is to be believed, the current incarnation of SCCS is what will be under the 500L, 500X, and the B-Jeep.
I cannot confirm if GM's Gamma II is a modified/modernized SCCS.
http://www.allaboutauto.us/wp-content/uploads/HLIC/fordfiesta.jpg
http://www.dieselstation.com/pics/Kia-Rio-2012-car-pics.jpg
http://www.diariomotor.com/imagenes/2013/01/posts/honda-urban-suv-concept-02-dm-700px.jpg
They have made Liberkee(r), Compass and Grand Cherokee look alike as well. A big mistake IMO.Jackratchett said:Thank You for the info. Really hoping the Jeep version of the 500X is a lot edgier because all these small CUV's look too much alike.
It doesn't matter if the pic is official or not.
It will look like all the other ones out there. That's the stylist's modus operandi these days.
It will look like all the other ones out there. That's the stylist's modus operandi these days.
It's because of two things:unverferth said:It doesn't matter if the pic is official or not.
It will look like all the other ones out there. That's the stylist's modus operandi these days.
1. Aerodynamics
2.The rules protecting pedestrians in a collision
It will be a while before we seen a new trend in car design.
There might be a shortage of imagination out there as well.tryphon said:tryphon, on 18 Feb 2013 - 12:06, said:
It's because of two things:
1. Aerodynamics
2.The rules protecting pedestrians in a collision
It will be a while before we seen a new trend in car design.
I think that's 90%.There might be a shortage of imagination out there as well
Consider grilles. Look at the standard grilles -- all one shape, basically. Oh, Lexus now has a >< thing instead of the standard trapezoid, but... then there's Ford and its line of razors, also imitated now... it's like in the 1980s we had "hide the grille" styling and in the 1970s it was the "formal style" and in the 1960s the spartan reaction to the 1950s' excesses... and of course the late 1950s cars do blend together if you are not thoroughly acquainted with the period already. (Show kids a 1958 car from each of the big three and they'll see 'em as old-timers see the current crop.)
There's a degree of truth to "functional requirements dictate form" but only in the most general sense.
True but the 500's styling is actually one of the most distinctive out there. That's also why it tends to polarize opinions. Personally I like it, even though sometimes is a bit too quirky I found that it grows on you over time. Btw this is the only official pic:unverferth said:It doesn't matter if the pic is official or not.
It will look like all the other ones out there. That's the stylist's modus operandi these days.
Hope the Jeep version looks more like the old Varsity concept.
http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4823017241969343&pid=1.7&w=203&h=153&c=7&rs=1
http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4794163660325715&pid=1.7&w=198&h=153&c=7&rs=1
http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4823017241969343&pid=1.7&w=203&h=153&c=7&rs=1
http://ts4.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4794163660325715&pid=1.7&w=198&h=153&c=7&rs=1
Oh lord! I truly hope not, that's terrible!
Sorry, just my 2c of course.
Sorry, just my 2c of course.
I agree. It reminds me of a green beetle (the insect, not the car).RVC said:Oh lord! I truly hope not, that's terrible!
Sorry, just my 2c of course.
That Varsity concept looks basically like what the Caliber ended up being …
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