Agreed and it allows others to not have to search through pages and pages of negativity for one or two posts that are neutral or positive and informative.TripleT said:No I believe this warrants a independent thread, not everything new Jeep needs to be lumped into the Negative thread.
Yeah, unfortunately, this video doesn't help. As the posts in that thread show. It was quickly pointed out that they clearly piled up dirt before the rock, likely to offset the poor approach angle caused by the large overhang.ralph.jones said:Agreed and it allows others to not have to search through pages and pages of negativity for one or two posts that are neutral or positive and informative.
It was a tease not a full out 2 hr comparative test, like I said my Journey wouldn't have made it so Awd Car comment are just more it aint a XJ fodder.unclejjg said:Let me toss this out there for consideration: Would a 2007 Patriot be capable of accomplishing what we saw in that video? I'm thinking yes....so what did they really prove here?
In other words, show me a clip of the Patriot & KK failing when the KL succeeds. Show me a clip where a Subaru Forester or Suzuki Grand Vitara is stuck, but the new Cherokee is still rolling. Show me a clip where the Land Rover LR2 can't make it up the same hill. Then, AT LEAST, you've proven that you've got the most capable mid-sized CUV available today.....if not a true JEEP.
Where is the AWD car comment? None I listed are a car, they all claim SUV or CUV. Grave Vitara has a transfer case, so does the KK. The Patriot is another JEEP for Christ's sake, and the LR2 is the only other brand actively pursuing offroad chops via electronic gizmos. The Forester is a leader in Awd and ground clearance and have added there own east/west power split system this year. Each one of these should have been surpassed by the new JEEP.TripleT said:It was a tease not a full out 2 hr comparative test, like I said my Journey wouldn't have made it so Awd Car comment are just more it aint a XJ fodder.
I call Cow Feces......sebring96hbg said:The video is available elsewhere on the net. It does not appear conclusive that dirt was added. Lighting is different; so, the dirt has a brighter clay color in the KL video. The rut on the right side of the "approach" looks no different in both videos. If dirt had been added, the rut in the KL video would have likely been covered.
Edit: It does look raked at the least.
Why is calling a spade a spade considered bashing. Do you guys expect zero offroad performance from this thing? Never mind the XJ'S...this is not comparable to my KK, my Blazer, or my old GC. If I am correct, this thread is about the Cherokee offroad...he'll it's got a video of it. It didn't impress, should I lie, or just not comment?MoparStu said:THe Cherokee bashing is getting rather old. Yes, I understand its not your beloved XJ from 12 years ago. The industry has evolved. It's changed.