"Posers" or not, they are still legitimate Jeep owners. The idea of owning a "Jeep" is huge for people. That should not be taken away from them not should they be classified differently.Aldo said:I experienced the same owning a Jeep: you meet all walks of life on the trails...and yes, a lot of posers in the city
Not sure why a Jeep owner has to be looked down upon just because they may spend more time in the city than others. Why can't people just be happy that others are using their vehicles in whatever way they would like?Aldo said:I experienced the same owning a Jeep: you meet all walks of life on the trails...and yes, a lot of posers in the city
Well said.JKU12 said:Not sure why a Jeep owner has to be looked down upon just because they may spend more time in the city than others. Why can't people just be happy that others are using their vehicles in whatever way they would like?
Not offended at all.Aldo said:Sorry to offend some sensibilities. But denying the obvious only helps justificate the ongoing notion that because "...most customers don't even take their Jeeps offroad..." it is okay to strive for mediocrity.
No one is "denying the obvious". The reality is that your perception is not the same as others.Aldo said:Sorry to offend some sensibilities. But denying the obvious only helps justificate the ongoing notion that because "...most customers don't even take their Jeeps offroad..." it is okay to strive for mediocrity.
I would say the Jeep brand has not been compromised at all, todays wranglers are the most fuel efficient, powerful, roomy, capable, dependable wranglers ever made. If it wasn't for the 90% who never go offroad buying wranglers, they wouldn't make them at all.unclejjg said:This is such a simple concept......nobody cares if "posers" like the brand. It's when the brand changes to accommodate posers that people get pissed. Wtf?
Nobody cares when grandma buys an SRT and never breaches 60 mph....its when an SRT comes out that can't top 70 mph that BRAND was compromised. What part of this do the bleeding hearts not get?
Funny how misinterpretation of a 15 year old survey becomes Urban Legend. The figure was 80% and it came from an old Daimler survey covering only the Grand Cherokee, not all Jeeps.Bionicrooster said:I would say the Jeep brand has not been compromised at all, todays wranglers are the most fuel efficient, powerful, roomy, capable, dependable wranglers ever made. If it wasn't for the 90% who never go offroad buying wranglers, they wouldn't make them at all.
You read too much into it, Mike. Lighten up.Mike V. said:No one is "denying the obvious". The reality is that your perception is not the same as others.
That doesn't give you the right to judge.
Mike
A nice little story about Forest Service volunteer probram and the value that Jeepers bring to forest conservation and public trail access.Aldo said:You read too much into it, Mike. Lighten up.
My dealer staff also volunteers to help maintain some trails on the San Bernardino mountains. I am sure they do it because they want to. But it is truly admirable, and earns them credibility among Jeep owners.MoparNorm said:A nice little story about Forest Service volunteer probram and the value that Jeepers bring to forest conservation and public trail access.![]()
Works both ways... You did not have to make the comment in the first place.Aldo said:You read too much into it, Mike. Lighten up.
Good stuff.MoparNorm said:Funny how misinterpretation of a 15 year old survey becomes Urban Legend. The figure was 80% and it came from an old Daimler survey covering only the Grand Cherokee, not all Jeeps.
Back on topic, the Dirt Devils work closely with my club, Bear Valley 4x4, on the San Bernardino Forest, Adopt-A-Trail program. Nearly 100 Jeep and outdoor organizations work together as volunteers, contributing over 500,000 volunteer man hours. Worth over 11 million dollars in matching funds to help maintain our trails.
Not posers by any stretch of the imagination.