Jeep to launch electric Land Rover Defender rival by 2025 (Recon)

Lower part of the segment? So it is smaller/cheaper? That's kind of what I was hoping for. Like something maybe around the size of the last Liberty.

Edit: Well Car&Driver says it'll start at $60k so that's running counter to what Autocar is saying. Starting at $60k is like the mid-to-high level of the Wrangler Market.
From Car&Driver:

aldo90731 said:

Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE my Jeep Wrangler. But I am scared to set foot at a Jeep dealership. Between the ridiculous prices, the widespread incompetence of the sales and service staffs, and the arrogant indifference from Stellantis, I look at these new vehicles Jeep keeps throwing at us and all I can do is scratch my head.

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I will say if someone had bought a Wagoneer from the Jeep dealership I did and received the experience I got from my Jeep, they'd probably had gone to Land Rover and traded it in. It was on par from what I expected from the very Chrysler Jeep dealership which annoyed me back in 2009. The experience wasn't far off from that. The Honda dealership I bought from in 09 was better. My ex's 2016 Subaru dealership was waaaayyy better, and I can only assume the Land Rover, BMW and Mercedes dealers are way better than those. And it wasn't exclusive to that dealership because two other CDJ's were calling me saying they had the car I wanted in stock only for them to be missing deal breaker features like being a 4xe or missing the trailer hitch. All in an effort to try to get me in an JGC 4xe.

One big issue to your point was the app. Which my salesman had entered the wrong VIN to get me registered. When I inquired about why the car in the app didn't look like my car and called it a Sport model, I got met with they all look like that. Only to find out, it was the wrong car. It took 6 calls to both Sirius and Mopar to finally get it right and my app now shows my car and a random Hertz rental car in the app. I also noticed things that were supposed to be in the car at delivery were missing so when I got back to the dealership to pick them up I just kept getting the "Give me all 10's" request again and again. Then the app itself is super laggy. You don't know for sure when its fully charged unless you keep prompting it. It beats walking into the garage or running out to the charging station and checking, but in a world where you get charged for parking too long at a charging station, a push notification saying the car is full would be nice. I usually won't get a "completed charge" notification until I've already unplugged the car and am leaving.