It should be noted however that Chrysler WILL manufacture their versions of this transmission and the 8 speed and they had significant design input, unlike Rover and BMW.TWX said:They're incorrect, but they're not significantly incorrect. It appears that Chrysler licensed the design, as did Land Rover, and that the designer does not manufacture transmissions for mass-market production themselves.
Since the raw design itself appears to have not originated internally, saying that the two automakers buy their transmissions from another company is not completely right, but isn't completely wrong either.
And a Grand Cherokee is a Cherokee?TWX said:They're incorrect, but they're not significantly incorrect....
No.Jeepophile said:And a Grand Cherokee is a Cherokee?
Thanks, Norm for explicitly stating what I thought was apparent to those of us already paying attention. Your post reminded me that it's often helpful to be more specific!MoparNorm said:It should be noted however that Chrysler WILL manufacture their versions of this transmission and the 8 speed and they had significant design input, unlike Rover and BMW.
You beat me to the point, I was going to mention that the Chicago Tribune, now owns the LA Times, after the Times ran off most of its subscribers. What was once one of the worlds great papers is now pretty much a skeleton staff and coupons.DaveAdmin said:It's pretty much a problem across the industry, if I dare go slightly off-topic.
Newspaper staffs have been slashed repeatedly, for various reasons, some of which are anticipation of readership drops, which come automatically when they slash the staff and the newspaper turns to rubbish.
As they get fewer and fewer people, they rely on them to do more and more, and those people turn out this mindless drivel.
The public, meanwhile, demands less and less of its media, and I suspect owners and editors look at the trash that people love to read and figure nobody cares about accurate reporting. To a large degree, they're right. Sorry, but the hot story of the day was a Viper crash -- and that was before we knew who was driving it. Most people don't care that it was an apparently valued and respected Chrysler man -- if it's not an actor, singer, dancer, "top 10%" politician, or the Pope, they don't care about anyone (exceptions are sometimes made for dogs and kittens).
So when you read stories like this, remember that nearly all reporting is just this bad if you know the real story. Science reporting is just as trashy. Financial reporting is often even worse. This is one reason why some of the big-name newspapers, including the LA Times, still have some shreds of reputation: not all their reporting is this bad.
As to what Ford said: They said in 2003 they were aiming for a 20-30% increase in fuel economy by 2010. They had achieved 20% by 2009.DaveAdmin said:DaveAdmin, on 15 Apr 2013 - 3:51 PM, said:
Agreed. I've noticed that Ford sells by press release and concept. A few years back, Ford announced it would raise gas mileage by 30% in all its vehicles by, um, 2010. They didn't even try. Then there's the Ford Atlas concept truck, to steal the thunder of Ram and Silverado -- real trucks. And of course this one-upmanship -- in five or six years, they'll match and/or beat where ZF and its customers are today.
Tannon's right that the article has grounds in reality though it departs from it. Chrysler does buy ZF transmissions but it also makes them.
Fortune just published an article with that insane Alfa-Audi linkup -- today! (They also used a 2000 Neon to symbolize Plymouth, which is semi-fair, as it was Plymouth's last car, but wouldn't you think they would use the Prowler, which was actually a Plymouth rather than a Dodge/Plymouth?)