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damn....that's a big delay from the 5/14 date. I was holding out for one, but at this rate I'll never see them in the 2014 model year. Guess I'll just buy another Acadia...
 

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Does this mean the Ram 1500 diesel is delayed?
 

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69DartGTS said:
^^^ if thats the case just get the V6 Grand Cherokee???
Nah...if I'm stuck with a 6 I'll go for the extra space any day of the week. I've owned two (a 2008 and a 2009) but really wanted a new GC with the diesel for our next SUV. I was willing to give up rear leg room, captain's chairs, and a usable 3rd row in order to get the diesel. Not willing to give all of that up for the gasser. Maybe I'll go drive a HEMI and see what I think, but no guarantees. Chrysler's inability to get a launch right (both quality, availability, and keeping to a timeline) is getting really frustrating. I settled on my 300S because they delayed the 8-speed/HEMI combo yet again. I won't do that anymore.
 

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HotCarNut said:
Nah...if I'm stuck with a 6 I'll go for the extra space any day of the week. I've owned two (a 2008 and a 2009) but really wanted a new GC with the diesel for our next SUV. I was willing to give up rear leg room, captain's chairs, and a usable 3rd row in order to get the diesel. Not willing to give all of that up for the gasser. Maybe I'll go drive a HEMI and see what I think, but no guarantees. Chrysler's inability to get a launch right (both quality, availability, and keeping to a timeline) is getting really frustrating. I settled on my 300S because they delayed the 8-speed/HEMI combo yet again. I won't do that anymore.
V6 Durango?
 

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V6 Durango?
Doesn't work. The middle row is still very small for a 3 row crossover and the backseat is a joke. Plus I'm not a fan of the Dodge styling or interior materials. I really like the Overland and Summit models of the Jeep both inside and out, enough that when combined with the diesel I was willing to trade the space.
 

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I'd like to get this for my wife; however, we need six seats. :cry:
 

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HotCarNut said:
Doesn't work. The middle row is still very small for a 3 row crossover and the backseat is a joke. Plus I'm not a fan of the Dodge styling or interior materials. I really like the Overland and Summit models of the Jeep both inside and out, enough that when combined with the diesel I was willing to trade the space.
You can't wait another month?
Lease up?
 

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MoparNorm said:
You can't wait another month?
Lease up?
Another month is a pipe dream for diesel availability, and that's my frustration. It's been pushed twice and Chrysler's determined to serve the overseas markets first because of the preference for diesels overseas. I want the Grand Cherokee, I really do. My wife has told me repeatedly that she'd prefer the Grand Cherokee even though it's smaller given the fuel economy and torque gains over the Acadia. However, even if they started production the end of June (huge if) they'll spend 2 weeks in QC before they ever get put on a truck to a dealer. Give it another week from there and you're looking at mid-July before the first one hits a dealer. Combine that with the fact that Indy gets all of the new models well after the coasts, Michigan, Chicago, and other major markets have been filled and we won't see one on the lot until October. It's frustrating as I originally wanted to get my wife one as a Mother's Day present. The May 14th delay date made that impossible, but it was reasonable to wait. Now it's pushed again and I hear every day that she wants her SUV back (she's currently driving our MINI). I can't keep putting her off because Chrysler can't get their act together. This launch has been a mess of delays and limited availability. The only thing keeping it from making bigger headlines is the absolute disaster Ford is suffering with the Lincoln MKZ launch.
 

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Sure it's frustrating, but June is only another month, from May, that was my reference.
It seems worth the wait.
 

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MoparNorm said:
Sure it's frustrating, but June is only another month, from May, that was my reference.
It seems worth the wait.
I'm still wondering if they'll delay it again. That's my reference. This was over a 6-week delay and they waited until less than a week before the production date for it to become public knowledge in the system. Given their modus operandi right now, I don't believe the 6/26 date is legit. My post didn't accurately reflect that sentiment, but that's really what I'm getting at. Chrysler has lost their credibility on this launch and they're trending poorly on all of their launches. I guess in trying to pinch pennies and monitor Europe Sergio is too busy to take care of the market that's actually MAKING money.
 

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Yes. Moved back once again, 3rd quarter launch.
The amount of incompetence in their production/launch-planning department is unbelievable. I don't understand why people aren't being fired for this kind of stuff.

Any idea of the mechanical differences between an international LHD 2014 Diesel Cherokee and the NAFTA LHD Diesel Cherokee?
 

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Yes. Moved back once again, 3rd quarter launch.
Geeze, is this is another move from the delay acknowledged last week?
What happened to the "Sergio Rule"?
There are supposed to be no product teases until 90 days out?

HCN has reason to be upset. I don't even want one and Im upset, because this delays the Wrangler diesel as well.
 
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oh2o said:
Yes. Moved back once again, 3rd quarter launch.
:facepalm: :soapbox:
 

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Another month is a pipe dream for diesel availability, and that's my frustration. It's been pushed twice and Chrysler's determined to serve the overseas markets first because of the preference for diesels overseas. I want the Grand Cherokee, I really do. My wife has told me repeatedly that she'd prefer the Grand Cherokee even though it's smaller given the fuel economy and torque gains over the Acadia. However, even if they started production the end of June (huge if) they'll spend 2 weeks in QC before they ever get put on a truck to a dealer. Give it another week from there and you're looking at mid-July before the first one hits a dealer. Combine that with the fact that Indy gets all of the new models well after the coasts, Michigan, Chicago, and other major markets have been filled and we won't see one on the lot until October. It's frustrating as I originally wanted to get my wife one as a Mother's Day present. The May 14th delay date made that impossible, but it was reasonable to wait. Now it's pushed again and I hear every day that she wants her SUV back (she's currently driving our MINI). I can't keep putting her off because Chrysler can't get their act together. This launch has been a mess of delays and limited availability. The only thing keeping it from making bigger headlines is the absolute disaster Ford is suffering with the Lincoln MKZ launch.
Would it be possible to work it out with a dealership to Lease a used Jeep Grand Cherokee until the the diesel version is available?
Maybe even pre-order through that dealership so you get what you want at the end.
If you go GMC, I don't think that kind a deal would work.
Did she drive both? Is the GMC too big and uncomfortable to drive (do to size) compared to the GC to her?
It will be a big jump between the mini and the bigger vehicle.
I prefer driving my PT cruiser and switching to the long bed ram 1500 I find it feeling huge. But I know I can switch back after my task is done with the pickup.
Is the GMC a supplement vehicle or a replacement to the mini? I bet she will miss the mini when in parking lots. Unless you mean minivan/caravan. Then both are similar in size.
At the end, be happy with what ever vehicle you and her decide on.
You & your wife must decide how important is interior volume. Are you hauling lots of people or stuff? How important is a SUV vs minivan? Is off road capability necessary for winter or daily travel? Are you going to tow anything?
Would a Sprinter 2.1L diesel be a better choice if you need volume and fuel mileage?
 

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I was in the local dealership for a right low beam that was out. What would usually be a bulb or fuse issue required a $99.50 diagnosis and reprogramming of the TIPM (Totally Integrated Power Module and $31 for a replacement headlight bulb. I'm not kidding.

While I discussed this, the guy there said their techs were warned that people will be shocked by the price of the batteries in the Grand Cherokee next year. Technology marches onward. But when it leaves you where you can't replace a bulb or a fuse, what is it's real value?
 
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