Preface, I didn't read the article yet.John Rogers said:Must everything from the 70's be judged by today's standards and technology?
They're definitely not small cars, Dart outweighs or is right there with a lot of the mid-size segment standards. Accord, Mazda 6, Sonata, Camry, all weigh about the same or less than Dart. The problem with marketing the Dart in their segment is Avenger... Dart does have more room inside than the compact cars too, but at the cost of that added weight. Basically, it's a mid-size car in every way, but can't be marketed there because of the Avenger.TWX said:Preface, I didn't read the article yet.
For a realistic comparison, then versus now, did the '70s A-body then provide to its intended target market what that market segment wanted? Today, does the 2013+ Dart provide to its intended market segment what that market segment wants?
One can argue, given the slow start that Dart has had, that it initially didn't provide what customers in that segment want, but I am beginning to see them on the road here in sufficient quantities to tell me that someone's buying them now, and they don't look low-line enough to be rentals.
Part of the issue is that they're trying to market them as small cars, when they're not really small cars. For their external dimensions they're within an inch or two of the first-generation Stratus/Cirrus, not even down in Neon territory, which was one of the largest cars in the compact segment, and they dwarf their immediate predecessor in the Caliber. With the Avenger though, if they market them in their true segment then there'll be two mid-size Dodges for sale, not a compact and a mid-size.
How do the weights of the Dart and 500L compare when both are used in "similar" configurations? Is it a programming/brand preferences problem or a weight problem?Longtimejeep said:They need to do a software update to the dual clutch. If I'm not mistaken, same power train as 500L which gets good reviews.
Took away some of the lag... My mom thought she was gonna snap her neck off, she has iirc 2 fused vertebra stabilized be a titanium plate.sebring96hbg said:I had mine updated on Monday and it now feels like a different car - in a very good way.
No, but they do reference the last generation Impala when they review the current Impala. They also reference the last generation Dart when they review the Dart, that's the problem with reviving a nameplate after almost 40 years...valiant67 said:Do they also make a reference to the ubiquitous 1960s and 1970s Impala when they review the current Impala?