[assadour]

I know it's a small change, but how come the hwy figure for SE's and LX's (2.4 and 4-speed) dropped from 30 to 29 mpg from 2012 to 2013? Did the EPA get more data?

 

[Dave Z]

Did the weight change? Did the 2.4 horsepower rating change?

 

[Dave Z]

... or -- I don't recall if the SE came with any options to speak of, but perhaps they added sound insulation (weight), made some minor change in the body shape that hurt aero, or, most likely, if it has options, more customers ordered those options than anticipated, changing the fleet percentage.

 

[Bob Lincoln]

?? 2013 Chrysler 200 sedan with 4 cyl and 6-speed auto is the same as the 2012 model - 20 mpg city, 31 highway.

2013 Chrysler 200 sedan with 6 cyl and 6-speed auto is the same as the 2012 model - 19 mpg city, 29 highway.

Where are you getting this info from?

 

[browens1534]

Gearing change in the 4spd?

 

[Bob Lincoln]

I see now that he's talking about the 4-speed. I'll bet that was 20 mpg last year, the 6-speed was what got it to 31 mpg.

 

[Stratuscaster]

DRIVETRAIN: 2012 versus 2013

2.4/4auto: 21/30(24) versus 21/29(24)
2.4/6auto: 20/31(24) versus 20/31(23)
3.6/6auto: 19/29(22) versus 19/29(22)

:huh:

 

[browens1534]

A dealer near me has Avenger SEs for a SCREAMING good $16,900 starting and for $17,500 you get leather wrapped wheel, 18" rims (CHROME!). I'm really thinking about jumping on one after the first of the year... But idk why the EPA numbers dropped, that kinda worries me... But it's sure and the heck better than 17mpg in a "compact" that I currently have... But I don't wanna inflate my payments from $130 to god knows what and my insurance just dropped $100 a six months AFTER 2 accidents (1 at fault, 1 where I got hit...). I don't think the risk is worth it... But I sure would like the car better...

 

[assadour]

Thanks for all your replies. I'm interested in the SE's because most of my driving is roughly 65% city. I could probably get 22-23, which would be better than the roughly 21 that I'm getting with my 2005 Stratus (2.4, 4-speed).

 

[Bob Lincoln]

My wife has a 2012 Chrysler 200 with 2.4L and 6-speed auto, rated for 20/31. We have 6,000 miles on it now, almost all city driving, and she has averaged 22 mpg. It gets an honest 31 highway, and now that she just started driving about a 50/50 mix, mileage on the first tankful came out to 25.1 mpg.

 

[assadour]

Does anybody have any reliable mileages (significant number of fills and that pump data) for any 2013 200's or Avengers?. Would be particularly interested in LX or SE data. I'm asking because I've looked at some data on other websites and some of the mileages are rather poor - like 19 or less. This data is on cars with the 2.4. Many of the cars have over 2000 miles on them. Not sure what the city/hwy percentages are. On the same sites, the data for 2012 cars is significantly better, like 24+ mpg. Thanks.

 

[Bob Lincoln]

I can only offer 2012 data with the 2.4L:

Monthly averages:

May-12 21.0
Jun-12 21.8
Jul-12 21.6
Aug-12 21.8
Sep-12 20.5
Oct-12
Nov-12 22.3
Dec-12 24.0
Jan-13 23.6
Feb-13 23.5
Mar-13 23.7


Lifetime average of 22.8 mpg. At first it was driven city only, now it's about a 50/50 mix. Highway-only trips do measure 30-31 mpg.
Also, my wife drives aggressively and never coasts - it's either gas or brake pedal; so she comes up to a stop fast. I can get about 2 mpg better than she does.

 

[Dave Z]

Don't get the four speed automatic version, period. Really. The six speed will pay for itself in dentistry savings (from not gnashing your teeth and wishing you'd bought the six speed.)

It's not just gas mileage, the six speed will give you much better acceleration than the four speed, even in the city. Look at the low gear for both cars.

 

[Bob Lincoln]

Yes, we have the 6-speed auto and love it. Good power, low RPMs when cruising, kicks down readily.

 

[Dave Z]

It gives the four-cylinder a real V6 feel around town.

 

[Jeff2KPatriotBlue]

The six speed will pay for itself in dentistry savings (from not gnashing your teeth and wishing you'd bought the six speed.)

 

[assadour]

Slightly different topic. Reliability of car weight data for the Avenger and the 200 in the specs at the web sites. For the Avenger, 3400 lb is given for both the SE with the four and with the Pentastar and the weight goes up to 3607 lb for the SXT. I suppose that is with the four and the six-speed. On the other hand, for the 200, a weight of 3402 lb is given for all the models except the Limited for which a weight of 3575 lb is given. These figures are confusing. Are they reliable? Does equipment other than the drive train make that much difference? Appreciate any comments. Thanks.