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NASCAR News & Discussion



It's been awhile since a dedicated topic existed for NASCAR discussion on Allpar. This topic is purely for news and discussion! 2021 has been an admittedly exciting year for NASCAR with a ton of changes and a lot of great storylines. So let's have some fun, strap up, and have some good-natured discussion on the sport.

This isn't the topic to bemoan and decry the sport. So hopefully we have some good NASCAR fans here ready to talk.

The topic is for the Cup Series, Xfinity Series, Camping World Truck Series and any local racing. Pretty much anything NASCAR related you want to talk about. :)
 

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A little about me. NASCAR became important when Dodge announced they were returning and wow, what a promising first year Dodge had. Drivers winning and competing for the championship. Greats like Sterling Marlin, Kasey Kahne, Ryan Newman, Bill Elliott, Rusty Wallace, all had their time dominating with their Dodge's. Those Ray Evenham red Dodge's were beastly cool! I watched Brad Keselowski win the championship for Dodge in their final year...

NASCAR did lose a lot of it's luster to me when Dodge left. It got worse that Toyota was let in and so lovingly embraced. Even today, they seem to be all over NASCAR, being an official sponsor, having the pace car at tracks, also being used as NASCAR safety trucks and jet-dry vehicles... sheesh. But when Dodge was there, I always rooted for them and their drivers whomever they were to beat those other brands. Now I have... Ford and Chevy is all to root for? Hmm.

But putting all that aside in 2020 I decided to come back into NASCAR after turning away in 2010 and loosely barely paying attention in-between. I must say, 2021 has been a very exciting year and I am VERY happy to be watching NASCAR again. A lot of the drivers I grew up with are gone, and I find myself rooting for the few remaining one's I remember. It is a blast watching these new drivers come up and without Dodge there, I am enjoying the sport for it's drivers and not just the manufacturer. It's made me enjoy it a lot. Now I would love to see Dodge back and I hope they do someday.

I wanted to share this because I really hope there are people here who LOVE their Mopar's and can still enjoy talking about this sport. If I can put aside my Mopar love to enjoy things again, it gives me hope others do too! I look forward to discussing races, drivers, anything NASCAR with whomever wishes to bite.
 

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Prove me wrong..........

Best Nascar driver ever.......Kyle Busch

58 Cup wins
98 X-Finity wins
61 Truck wins

Nobody else comes close !!!!!
Now THAT is a hot take. I wouldn't say he is the best ever, but he certainly is very talented! He has a hot head, and the sport needs a guy for people to dislike because it causes tension and excitement!

I got no beef with the guy, but I know of his past actions. It just makes the sport more exciting! He is certainly ONE of the best drivers out there.
 

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Prove me wrong..........

Best Nascar driver ever.......Kyle Busch

58 Cup wins
98 X-Finity wins
61 Truck wins

Nobody else comes close !!!!!
As much as I dislike KB, I do give him credit for those wins and that he is a talented driver.

Yes, The King has 200 wins at the Grand National/Cup level, but many of those wins were against severely underfunded teams. Many of today's teams in the Xfinity and Cup series are well funded and are not easy to win against.

Just got back from going to the Coca-Cola 600. The pre-race ceremony honoring those who gave the ultimate sacrifice for freedom was awesome. The most solemn moments were the Bagpipe playing of Amazing Grace, Taps and the Moment of Silence at the halfway point of the race. After the 2nd stage was complete, the pace car led the cars down pit road where they were stopped and turned off their engines. A moment of silence was then observed. You could have heard a pin drop.

HMS continues to steamroll. Larson won with Elliott 2nd, Byrum 4th and Bowman 5th. Only KB's 3rd place finish prevented another HMS 1-2-3-4 sweep. Gibbs can barely keep up and Penske is nowhere to be found. RFR and SH are struggling though Buescher had a top 10 finish.

This season has been interesting. Eleven different winners with 12 races to go before the playoffs. Will there be more than 16? Several winners from last year have yet to score a win this year - Harvick and Hamlin in particular.

Lot more road races to go this season - Sonoma, Road America, Mid-Ohio, the Roval and Watkins Glen.
 

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A little about me. NASCAR became important when Dodge announced they were returning and wow, what a promising first year Dodge had. Drivers winning and competing for the championship. Greats like Sterling Marlin, Kasey Kahne, Ryan Newman, Bill Elliott, Rusty Wallace, all had their time dominating with their Dodge's. Those Ray Evenham red Dodge's were beastly cool! I watched Brad Keselowski win the championship for Dodge in their final year...

NASCAR did lose a lot of it's luster to me when Dodge left. It got worse that Toyota was let in and so lovingly embraced. Even today, they seem to be all over NASCAR, being an official sponsor, having the pace car at tracks, also being used as NASCAR safety trucks and jet-dry vehicles... sheesh. But when Dodge was there, I always rooted for them and their drivers whomever they were to beat those other brands. Now I have... Ford and Chevy is all to root for? Hmm.

But putting all that aside in 2020 I decided to come back into NASCAR after turning away in 2010 and loosely barely paying attention in-between. I must say, 2021 has been a very exciting year and I am VERY happy to be watching NASCAR again. A lot of the drivers I grew up with are gone, and I find myself rooting for the few remaining one's I remember. It is a blast watching these new drivers come up and without Dodge there, I am enjoying the sport for it's drivers and not just the manufacturer. It's made me enjoy it a lot. Now I would love to see Dodge back and I hope they do someday.

I wanted to share this because I really hope there are people here who LOVE their Mopar's and can still enjoy talking about this sport. If I can put aside my Mopar love to enjoy things again, it gives me hope others do too! I look forward to discussing races, drivers, anything NASCAR with whomever wishes to bite.
AMEN !!!
 

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As much as I dislike KB, I do give him credit for those wins and that he is a talented driver.

Yes, The King has 200 wins at the Grand National/Cup level, but many of those wins were against severely underfunded teams. Many of today's teams in the Xfinity and Cup series are well funded and are not easy to win against.

Just got back from going to the Coca-Cola 600. The pre-race ceremony honoring those who gave the ultimate sacrifice for freedom was awesome. The most solemn moments were the Bagpipe playing of Amazing Grace, Taps and the Moment of Silence at the halfway point of the race. After the 2nd stage was complete, the pace car led the cars down pit road where they were stopped and turned off their engines. A moment of silence was then observed. You could have heard a pin drop.

HMS continues to steamroll. Larson won with Elliott 2nd, Byrum 4th and Bowman 5th. Only KB's 3rd place finish prevented another HMS 1-2-3-4 sweep. Gibbs can barely keep up and Penske is nowhere to be found. RFR and SH are struggling though Buescher had a top 10 finish.

This season has been interesting. Eleven different winners with 12 races to go before the playoffs. Will there be more than 16? Several winners from last year have yet to score a win this year - Harvick and Hamlin in particular.

Lot more road races to go this season - Sonoma, Road America, Mid-Ohio, the Roval and Watkins Glen.
Great season so far...........love all the first time winners and all the different winners.
The problem might happen though that even if you have a win you might not make the final 16 in points!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Just got back from going to the Coca-Cola 600. The pre-race ceremony honoring those who gave the ultimate sacrifice for freedom was awesome. The most solemn moments were the Bagpipe playing of Amazing Grace, Taps and the Moment of Silence at the halfway point of the race. After the 2nd stage was complete, the pace car led the cars down pit road where they were stopped and turned off their engines. A moment of silence was then observed. You could have heard a pin drop.
It was a fantastic ceremony. I watched it on tv. How cool that you were there! That is awesome. The Bagpipe ceremony was fantastic... I think a little 'sweat' came from my eyes. I love the Patriotism of this sport. May it never change so help us God.

Great season so far...........love all the first time winners and all the different winners.
The problem might happen though that even if you have a win you might not make the final 16 in points!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am loving the new people winning. I love underdogs, and seeing first time winners! There is a lot of chances for first time winners with this new generation of drivers coming. This new class looks to be stronger then previous generations in a year or so.
 

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It was a fantastic ceremony. I watched it on tv. How cool that you were there! That is awesome. The Bagpipe ceremony was fantastic... I think a little 'sweat' came from my eyes. I love the Patriotism of this sport. May it never change so help us God.
There were some other things not shown on TV. Two Army Blackhawk helicopters flew over the back stretch, circled over turns three and four and landed on the infield near the stage. And the ceremony started with howitzers firing about 21 rounds.

I am loving the new people winning. I love underdogs, and seeing first time winners! There is a lot of chances for first time winners with this new generation of drivers coming. This new class looks to be stronger then previous generations in a year or so.
Yes, several new drivers are young and hungry for a win. Plus they are in well funded top tier teams with good equipment. It won't surprise me to see some new winners.
 
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I left the sport after Dodge left but was reintroduced by SlapShoes excellent YouTube Videos on the history on the sport. That got me hooked on Dale Jr's podcast and the interesting people like Evernham being interviewed (which brings me back to Dodge). Since then I'm tacitly paying attention, seeing how Brad K is doing.

Wondering if and when Larson gets a real sponsor. He has 2 wins.
Hendrick is interesting to me. The 5 is basically self funded by Hendrick because of Larson's behavior last season. The 48 is sponsored by Ally which used to be known as GMAC which has a long standing relationship with Hendrick (So effectively the GM factory team). I don't know how much money Liberty University is paying to be on the 24, but apparently Byron was the one who pulled that in. So that leaves Dupont (Axalta), and all the Chase Elliot Sponsors (Hooters, Napa, etc). Hendrick is a marketing monster in the sport and IMO it seems like they're hobbling together sponsorship. Penske is a mess with sponsorship and I don't know how Roush and Childress are pulling it off. I can hardly recognize any of the cars. It'll be interesting when the Nextgen cars come out.
 

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I left the sport after Dodge left but was reintroduced by SlapShoes excellent YouTube Videos on the history on the sport. That got me hooked on Dale Jr's podcast and the interesting people like Evernham being interviewed (which brings me back to Dodge). Since then I'm tacitly paying attention, seeing how Brad K is doing.
Are you sure you aren't just reading my mind right now? That is pretty much what happened to me. SlapShoes and a few others got me interested in the real stories of NASCAR, that I never knew before. I then a few months ago started listening to Dale's Download. I was never a Dale fan back in the day, but honestly none of that matters to me anymore. All the likes and dislikes were pretty frivolous back then anyways. I've really enjoyed hearing the old racing stories and it has made me appreciate so many more drivers and people. I had no idea Ray Evernham did so much either, all his stories and scandals. Drivers back in the day everyone praised, even though their records weren't too good, it put it all into a new perspective. It is so much more than just statistics.

I didn't recognize any of the cars practically coming back, but I've learned them now for the most part. The Penske cars were pretty similar (number and color wise), the Hendrick guys are there, same numbers. RCR is quite different and Roush isn't even recognizable nor the powerhouse they were.
 

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There were some other things not shown on TV. Two Army Blackhawk helicopters flew over the back stretch, circled over turns three and four and landed on the infield near the stage. And the ceremony started with howitzers firing about 21 rounds.
Oh cool! They did show the howitzers as they were going to a tv break, but didn't show them firing off the rounds! That is so awesome how much was there.

I must say, I am excited to see these guys go to a road track this week. Just a fun breakup.



I'm shocked at the amount of road tracks NASCAR decided to add this year. I'm both excited and a bit cautious.
 

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Wondering if and when Larson gets a real sponsor. He has 2 wins.
Come on, Hendrick Cars.com is technically real. ;)

I am curious as to who he would actually get? It could be a longtime sponsor that is tied to him for a long time.
 

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I must say, I am excited to see these guys go to a road track this week. Just a fun breakup.
Yep, two down (Daytona Road Course and COTA) and five more to go - Sonoma, Watkins Glen, The Roval, Road America and Mid-Ohio.

I am curious as to who he would actually get? It could be a longtime sponsor that is tied to him for a long time.
Given the current social climate, it may be a while before anyone touches Larson as a sponsor. All it takes is one group to fuss about it and they'll drop him like a hot potato.
 

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Yep, two down (Daytona Road Course and COTA) and five more to go - Sonoma, Watkins Glen, The Roval, Road America and Mid-Ohio.


Given the current social climate, it may be a while before anyone touches Larson as a sponsor. All it takes is one group to fuss about it and they'll drop him like a hot potato.
The more road course the better I like it !!!👍👍👍
 

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So this week we have Sonoma coming up. Any predictions from people. Martin Truex Jr. has won 3 of the last seven there I believe. Chase Elliott? Kyle Busch? Someone else? We got some road coarse ringers attending I am sure as well.
 

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So this week we have Sonoma coming up. Any predictions from people. Martin Truex Jr. has won 3 of the last seven there I believe. Chase Elliott? Kyle Busch? Someone else? We got some road coarse ringers attending I am sure as well.
The 'road course ringers" have such a dismal record running at road courses.
Waste of time to even mention them.
 
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