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Nascar has in the past black flagged cars to get their sheet metal in check if it’s flipping in the wind like it was with chase, yes even ones that aren’t needed. Clearly this is nascar playing favoritism like normal
All I can tell you is during the broadcast the question came up by the commentators. They checked with NASCAR and NASCAR stated since it was a road course and not a high speed oval, the bumper cover (the piece that was flapping) was not required (except at the start of the race). It's not like Chase would have won the race with or without the flapping bumper cover - he was no where near as fast after his dustup with Harvick. So what I'm saying is NASCAR went by the rule book. What NASCAR did in the past is irrelevant. If Chase had won the race, then I could see the argument that they were playing favorites.
 

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All I can tell you is during the broadcast the question came up by the commentators. They checked with NASCAR and NASCAR stated since it was a road course and not a high speed oval, the bumper cover (the piece that was flapping) was not required (except at the start of the race). It's not like Chase would have won the race with or without the flapping bumper cover - he was no where near as fast after his dustup with Harvick. So what I'm saying is NASCAR went by the rule book. What NASCAR did in the past is irrelevant. If Chase had won the race, then I could see the argument that they were playing favorites.
How is what they did in the past irrelevant? It's what they've done in the past and then moving goal post that matters. They (the announcers) asked if it was needed and that's it, not whether or not he should be flagged for a caution waiting to happen. I guess since the past doesn't matter chrysler should get back with mercedes since the past is irrelevant afterall
 

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NASCAR NEWS BLURBS

John Hunter Nemechek Returning To Kyle Busch Motorsports In Truck Series For 2022

Kyle Busch Motorsports announced Thursday that John Hunter Nemechek will return to drive the No. 4 Toyota Tundra in the NASCAR Camping World Truck Series full time in 2022. The organization also announced Eric Phillips, the winningest crew chief in Truck Series history, will once again call the shots atop the pit box for Nemechek and the No. 4 team next season. Article

McAnally-Hilgemann Racing Switching To Chevy From Toyota, Alliance with GMS Racing
McAnally-Hilgemann Racing will switch from Toyota to Chevrolet and form an alliance with GMS Racing for the NASCAR Camping World Truck Series in 2022, the team announced Oct. 13. Drivers are not fully known, but it is expected to be Derek Kraus and Colby Howard. Article

Next-Gen Cup Cars Tested At Charlotte

The test Monday and Tuesday featured more than 20 cars, all assembled by the teams. For many drivers and teams, this was the first time they really could get a feel for this car and the areas that need improvement or revision. NASCAR live-streamed the whole event and allowed fans in to see the cars testing. As for the test, drivers struggled with a vibration in the steering racks. NASCAR said some of the issues revolved around set screws that were backing out. Another major issue shared by drivers was the heat inside the cars. Article

23X1 Fails To Aquire Second Racing Charter, Front Row Motorsports Walks Away
According to Bob Pockrass, a tentative deal between 23XI Racing and Front Row Motorsports to acquire one of FRM’s charters has collapsed. Because of that, 23XI Racing could speak with Spire about one of its charters, as the team is expected to have at least two next year. It’s also possible, Front Row Motorsports remains a two-car operation in 2022. Overall, it is all up in the air at this point. Article

NASCAR Talks To Kevin Harvick and Chase Elliott About Feud
NASCAR confirmed it had a call with members of both race teams after Kevin Harvick and Chase Elliott’s latest run-in during Sunday’s Bank of America Roval 400 at the Charlotte Motor Speedway road course. Article

NASCAR President Says Major Changes Coming To 2023 Schedule, and Hopes to Have Electric-Hybrid Parts By 2024

NASCAR President Steve Phelps appeared at the CAA World Congress of Sports on Tuesday and said the sanctioning body has not finished shaking up the schedule and NASCAR’s new engine is expected to have a hybrid component when it debuts in 2024.Phelps also hit on racing in new markets and keeping the competition and cars relevant for manufacturers and competitive. He broke some news when he said that 2024 is the year when NASCAR will likely introduce some hybrid components to its seventh-generation race car, which debuts next year. He also suggested more bold (and until today unrevealed) schedule changes that are coming in 2023 and that NASCAR won’t hesitate to strip its 15 owned tracks of races if it feels the sport is best served by moving an event to a new market or venue. Phelps: “For me, it’s really about continuing to expose our sport to new audiences. I believed in 2018, when we kind of hit the bottom, that we were going to grow. … I see a continued opportunity for us to just kind of mash the gas and do smart things that are going to help grow the sport.” Article

Tony Stewart Racing To Join NHRA In 2022, Possibly With Dodge

Tony Stewart Racing (TSR), will field two fulltime entries – one in Top Fuel for nine-time event winner Leah Pruett and one in Funny Car for 39-time event winner Matt Hagan. The manufacturer and the team’s technical alliance associate, along with corporate partners, will be announced at a later date. Rumors in the garage is that it will be with Dodge, but there is no concrete evidence. Article
 

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Chase said it best after Harvick plowed nose first into the wall in heartburn turn (turn 1) - "Karma." Chase was behind him by 2 car lengths.

Chase ended up finishing well enough (12th) to advance to the Round of 8 while Harvick didn't.

Chase has been the one putting what transpired at Bristol behind him. Harvick is the one holding the grudge. Well, we can see what that got him. Nothing.
NASCAR aided Chase by not black flagging him to deal with that tail panel. He was almost a minute behind and without a caution he would not have passed enough cars to go forward, everybody knew that. NASCAR knew the panel would create a caution and boom, Chase is in. That is essentially the same as NASCAR shaping the outcome of the race.
 
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All I can tell you is during the broadcast the question came up by the commentators. They checked with NASCAR and NASCAR stated since it was a road course and not a high speed oval, the bumper cover (the piece that was flapping) was not required (except at the start of the race). It's not like Chase would have won the race with or without the flapping bumper cover - he was no where near as fast after his dustup with Harvick. So what I'm saying is NASCAR went by the rule book. What NASCAR did in the past is irrelevant. If Chase had won the race, then I could see the argument that they were playing favorites.
Disagree, it was not an issue with him running without the panel, it's that they all knew it would come off, cause the caution that Chase needed to catch up, plain and simple
 
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XFINITY TEXAS RECAP


So how did one of the least favorite tracks by fans perform today? Meh. Lots of cautions, and boring overall. Don't fall asleep, let's get into this one.

John Hunter Nemechek came back from a late-race pit penalty to deny Daniel Hemric a victory at the end. Hemric has now finished second 10 times his his Xfinity career and has no wins in the top three divisions of NASCAR. It was a day dominated by Toyota and Joe Gibbs Racing. So if you are not a Toyota fan, and not a fan of the racing Texas provides, I'd advise skipping the rest of this.

Nemechek’s No. 54 Joe Gibbs Racing Toyota led a race-high 92 of the 200 laps in the Andy’s Frozen Custard 335. The Camping World Truck Series regular notched his first win in four Xfinity starts this season. It also marked the second victory of his Xfinity Series career. Teammate Daniel Hemric finished second, leading 55 laps and crossing under the checkered flag 1.316 seconds behind the race winner. Noah Gragson placed third, with Justin Allgaier and defending series champ Austin Cindric closing out the top five in that order. Pole-starter AJ Allmendinger wound up sixth.

The race could have had some different winners up their today, as we know that 23 current Xfinity drivers, have no rides that are known for next season. Several big teams will be slimming down their operations from what we know at the moments including Joe Gibbs Racing. Daniel Hemric is running out of time to pick up a victory before the end of the season, and even with a second place finish, he is two points out of the playoffs, despite coming in one point back. Strangely, only the part-time 54 Toyota of Joe Gibbs Racing has won this year, no other full-time JGR Toyota has. Why aren't they making the other cars as good as the 54?

While never a threat to win today, Allgaier has a quiet day inside the top five most of the day as did his teammates Michael Annett and Noah Gragson.

Drivers who didn't have good days, who are usually higher in the finishing run order are Brandon Brown, who wrecked by himself off of turn 2. He finished 33rd and took heavy damage to his car. Jeremy Clements struggled all day, the former playoff driver finished a rough 29th. Myatt Snider was not a factor at all today and ran mid pack, finishing 21st.

A local Texas driver had a good run for his small team in Bayley Currey finishing 17th, and Kaz Grala continues to impress whenever he is in a car, with 15th. Ryan Sieg came back after causing a caution in the race and finished 14th. Riley Herbst seems to finish right out of the top ten or just inside recently and finished 12th. Jeb Burton, with no ride next season, was 11th.

1. John Nemechek - Toyota
2. Daniel Hemric - Toyota
3. Noah Gragson - Chevrolet
4. Justin Allgaier - Chevrolet
5. Austin Cindric - Ford
6. AJ Allmendinger - Chevrolet
7. Justin Haley - Chevrolet
8. Harrison Burton - Toyota
9. Michael Annett - Chevrolet
10. Brandon Jones - Toyota
 

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NASCAR NEWS BLURBS

John Hunter Nemechek Returning To Kyle Busch Motorsports In Truck Series For 2022

Kyle Busch Motorsports announced Thursday that John Hunter Nemechek will return to drive the No. 4 Toyota Tundra in the NASCAR Camping World Truck Series full time in 2022. The organization also announced Eric Phillips, the winningest crew chief in Truck Series history, will once again call the shots atop the pit box for Nemechek and the No. 4 team next season. Article

McAnally-Hilgemann Racing Switching To Chevy From Toyota, Alliance with GMS Racing
McAnally-Hilgemann Racing will switch from Toyota to Chevrolet and form an alliance with GMS Racing for the NASCAR Camping World Truck Series in 2022, the team announced Oct. 13. Drivers are not fully known, but it is expected to be Derek Kraus and ⁸Colby Howard. Article

Next-Gen Cup Cars Tested At Charlotte

The test Monday and Tuesday featured more than 20 cars, all assembled by the teams. For many drivers and teams, this was the first time they really could get a feel for this car and the areas that need improvement or revision. NASCAR live-streamed the whole event and allowed fans in to see the cars testing. As for the test, drivers struggled with a vibration in the steering racks. NASCAR said some of the issues revolved around set screws that were backing out. Another major issue shared by drivers was the heat inside the cars. Article

23X1 Fails To Aquire Second Racing Charter, Front Row Motorsports Walks Away
According to Bob Pockrass, a tentative deal between 23XI Racing and Front Row Motorsports to acquire one of FRM’s charters has collapsed. Because of that, 23XI Racing could speak with Spire about one of its charters, as the team is expected to have at least two next year. It’s also possible, Front Row Motorsports remains a two-car operation in 2022. Overall, it is all up in the air at this point. Article

NASCAR Talks To Kevin Harvick and Chase Elliott About Feud
NASCAR confirmed it had a call with members of both race teams after Kevin Harvick and Chase Elliott’s latest run-in during Sunday’s Bank of America Roval 400 at the Charlotte Motor Speedway road course. Article

NASCAR President Says Major Changes Coming To 2023 Schedule, and Hopes to Have Electric-Hybrid Parts By 2024

NASCAR President Steve Phelps appeared at the CAA World Congress of Sports on Tuesday and said the sanctioning body has not finished shaking up the schedule and NASCAR’s new engine is expected to have a hybrid component when it debuts in 2024.Phelps also hit on racing in new markets and keeping the competition and cars relevant for manufacturers and competitive. He broke some news when he said that 2024 is the year when NASCAR will likely introduce some hybrid components to its seventh-generation race car, which debuts next year. He also suggested more bold (and until today unrevealed) schedule changes that are coming in 2023 and that NASCAR won’t hesitate to strip its 15 owned tracks of races if it feels the sport is best served by moving an event to a new market or venue. Phelps: “For me, it’s really about continuing to expose our sport to new audiences. I believed in 2018, when we kind of hit the bottom, that we were going to grow. … I see a continued opportunity for us to just kind of mash the gas and do smart things that are going to help grow the sport.” Article

Tony Stewart Racing To Join NHRA In 2022, Possibly With Dodge

Tony Stewart Racing (TSR), will field two fulltime entries – one in Top Fuel for nine-time event winner Leah Pruett and one in Funny Car for 39-time event winner Matt Hagan. The manufacturer and the team’s technical alliance associate, along with corporate partners, will be announced at a later date. Rumors in the garage is that it will be with Dodge, but there is no concrete evidence. Article
Dodge????
Maybe
 

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CUP SERIES TEXAS RECAP


Some top Playoff drivers had issues today, some bounced back, some didn't. It is a must win for some drivers such as Joey Logano after a stunning blown engine (when was the last time we saw that?). Drivers like Martin Truex Jr. and Denny Hamlin, even Chase Elliott. But only one of those names mentioned bounced back with a top ten finish. Texas today was a snore fest, but the last 50 laps were quite entertaining to say the least. Let's check out what we got.


Kyle Larson was locked and loaded today in Texas as he drove away with the victory, with no real threats for the majority of the race. He mastered every restart, and nailed every turn. He was down right dominant. Larson’s victory in the postseason’s Round of 8 opener sealed an automatic spot in the four-driver field that will compete for the Cup Series title in the Nov. 7 season finale. The real racing took place behind him for second.

Teammate William Byron drove home second in the No. 24 Hendrick Motorsports Chevy. Christopher Bell placed third with Brad Keselowski fourth and Kevin Harvick fifth.

Joey Logano absorbed the worst finish among the eight title-eligible drivers, taking his No. 22 Team Penske Ford to the garage with engine failure after completing 298 laps. He wound up 30th in the 39-car field.

Even with Brad Keselowski 4th place finish, he only gained one point on the field, and is still several points out from the top four.

Kyle Busch recovered an early pit-road speeding penalty, then slight contact in a 12-car crash to win Stage 1 with a fuel-stretching run to the break. Larson prevailed in Stage 2.

Defending Cup Series champion Chase Elliott was among several drivers who dropped to the rear of the field for the start. His No. 9 Chevrolet failed pre-race inspection twice. This has happened over a dozen times this year, and even more for Hendrick as a whole this year.

Denny Hamlin was involved in a late race accident but came back to finish 11th.

It was a strong showing today for many drivers such as Kurt Busch early until a loose wheel ended his day up front. He finished 16th. Tyler Reddick raced up front, and for the win at one point, but was shuffled back on the final restart to finish 9th. Daniel Suarez brought his team home a 10th place run while Erik Jones has once again brought his RPM Chevy with a good finish of 12th. He's been on a streak lately putting together good top 15 finishes for his RPM team. Matt DiBenedetto ran up in the top ten and ultimate finished 13th. Chase Briscoe had some strong top ten speed at times and finished 15h. Michael McDowell came home 17th.

An Accident caused by Bubba Wallace off of turn 2 ended the day for many drivers including Joey Gase, Cody Ware, Justin Haley, Ryan Newman, Ricky Stenhouse Jr., and Alex Bowman.

Anthony Alfredo got the short end of the stick when drivers had to let up for a spinning Chris Buescher, whom Kyle Busch spun. Alfredo ended up smashing into the safer barrier, and his car catching on fire. He was visually upset in the post-accident interview, with a finishing spot of 29th. Poor guy, his future is uncertain in NASCAR's top division going into next year.

Our top finishers tonight.

1. Kyle Larson - Chevrolet
2. William Byron - Chevrolet
3. Christopher Bell - Toyota
4. Brad Keselowski - Ford
5. Kevin Harvick - Ford
6. Ryan Blaney - Ford
7. Chase Elliott - Chevrolet
8. Kyle Busch - Toyota
9. Tyler Reddick - Chevrolet
10. Daniel Suarez - Chevrolet
 

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What's with the multiple inspection issues??
NASCAR needs to make a rule that if you fail inspection more than 5 times upon the 6th, you will not be able race that day.
The violations are getting way out of hand
 

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What's with the multiple inspection issues??
NASCAR needs to make a rule that if you fail inspection more than 5 times upon the 6th, you will not be able race that day.
The violations are getting way out of hand
There are ever increasing penalties for failing inspection. As I recall, failing inspection twice DQ's the starting position and driver has to start at the rear and I think may be a small fine. Failing three times, driver starts at the rear of the field, lead engineer or crew chief is suspended for the race (NASCAR's choice) and a $50,000 fine. I don't think anyone has failed more than three times let alone 5 or 6 failures.

It hasn't been just Hendrick teams failing. JGR and others have had inspection failures as well.

There's an old saying among the NASCAR community, "If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying." I don't necessarily agree with that, but the teams do push the edge of the envelope trying to get every advantage they can.
 

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It will be an interesting off season given the new car and such.
I expect numerous penalties for the first quarter of the season.
Smokey Yunick would be licking his chops about the opportunity to push the limits!
 

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The next generation car will even the playing field until the well funded teams figure it out (if that haven't already). The composite body will be a game changer.
 
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