The "leaked" pics of the 500X do show an attractive little crossoverTripleT said:I really like the 500X, look much better than the 500L.
Rumors are that 500 is returning to Europe. With sales of about 3,000 per month and apparently stalled at that level and with the gov. mandated build obligations met, it's more profitable to put all 500 production in one plant.BigDaddySRT said:You do know that the FIAT 500 is pulling out of Toluca in 2015, and going back to Poland?
Yep, which makes sense now if this story has some credibility behind it.BigDaddySRT said:You do know that the FIAT 500 is pulling out of Toluca in 2015, and going back to Poland?
I am still on the fence with regards to buying an ABARTH.... with the FIAT 500 pulling out of Toluca.MoparNorm said:Rumors are that 500 is returning to Europe. With sales of about 3,000 per month and apparently stalled at that level and with the gov. mandated build obligations met, it's more profitable to put all 500 production in one plant.
Journey is rumored to be moving to the US, so Toluca needs a product.
It only makes sense to regroup all 500 production together from a logistics viewpoint. Something new will be coming from Toluca...BigDaddySRT said:I am still on the fence with regards to buying an ABARTH.... with the FIAT 500 pulling out of Toluca.
I get a really bad feeling.
You shouldn't! The Tichy plant as an excellent quality record. They have been building 500s for a lot longer than Toluca (Toluca has built approx. 80K Fiat 500 cars, Tichy approx 900,000 Fiat 500s!)...BigDaddySRT said:I am still on the fence with regards to buying an ABARTH.... with the FIAT 500 pulling out of Toluca.
I get a really bad feeling.
This is one of the reasons I'm not to distressed about having to wait for the next generation Abarth. Everything I've read about that plant and what it puts out is very positive.tryphon said:You shouldn't! The Tichy plant as an excellent quality record. They have been building 500s for a lot longer than Toluca (Toluca has built approx. 80K Fiat 500 cars, Tichy approx 900,000 Fiat 500s!)...
Chrysler is having more profits by building theMoparNorm said:Rumors are that 500 is returning to Europe. With sales of about 3,000 per month and apparently stalled at that level and with the gov. mandated build obligations met, it's more profitable to put all 500 production in one plant.
Journey is rumored to be moving to the US, so Toluca needs a product.
Just for the record, sales are different than production, so please don't misquote me. Toluca can easily keep up with production, because sales have stalled at approx. 3,000 units for the last few months, in the US. I haven't bothered to look up sales to Canada and Mexico.Mr.Source said:And just for your info. Toluca can't build enough 500 and Journeys to meet the demand, so please don't say that production is stalled.
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There were government mandated build obligations on the 500? When did that ever happen?MoparNorm said:with the gov. mandated build obligations met
An integral part of Fiat's ability to buy a larger percentage of Chrysler, was predicated upon Chrysler building a small car and building a car that achieved 40 mpg.CarsandGuitars said:There were government mandated build obligations on the 500? When did that ever happen?
Dan Minick said:It only makes sense to regroup all 500 production together from a logistics viewpoint. Something new will be coming from Toluca...
Not exactly correct. The first gaol achieved was to build a small fuel efficient engine the Dart was actually the 40 mpg carMoparNorm said:An integral part of Fiat's ability to buy a larger percentage of Chrysler, was predicated upon Chrysler building a small car and building a car that achieved 40 mpg.
That happened at the beginning, its in the agreement. Its easily researched. The 500 was that car.
Now it has been supplanted by the Dart.
That obligation has been met, the 500 is VIN'd as a Chrysler for that precise purpose, that purpose has been fulfilled, now 500 can go back home and be imported to the US for the few who wish to buy one.