[Erik Latranyi]

From the article:

Cars.com has released its American-Made Index for 2022, showing which vehicles call on the U.S. most for factory jobs, manufacturing plants and parts sourcing. Tesla has once again earned the title of “most American made” with its Model Y, and that's no shock considering the brand's massive growth and doubling down on domestic production. What is surprising, though, is that no full-size pickup made the top 10.

This year, only one vehicle with a truck bed is mentioned so high up. It's built in Lincoln, Alabama, and it's not a Chevy, Ford, or Ram. It's the Honda Ridgeline, and it sits at number eight.

This means U.S.-based truck makers like Ram, Ford and General Motors are currently being overshadowed by their international competitors. Cars.com completes its analysis based on five primary factors: location of final assembly, percentage of U.S. and Canadian parts, country of origin for available engines, country of origin for available transmissions, and U.S. manufacturing employees relative to the automaker’s footprint. Apparently, the Ridgeline meets that criteria better than anything that claims to come from Detroit.

Full article here:

Not a Single Full-Size Truck Made the Top 10 Most American-Made Car List (msn.com)

 

[Erik Latranyi]

The Top 20

Rank	Model	Assembly location for cars sold in the U.S.	(Rank in the 2021 AMI)
1	Tesla Model Y	Fremont, Calif., or Austin, Texas	3	Research	Shop
2	Tesla Model 3	Fremont, Calif.	1	Research	Shop
3	Lincoln Corsair	Louisville, Ky.	64	Research	Shop
4	Honda Passport	Lincoln, Ala.	9	Research	Shop
5	Tesla Model X	Fremont, Calif.	Unranked	Research	Shop
6	Tesla Model S	Fremont, Calif.	Unranked	Research	Shop
7	Jeep Cherokee	Belvidere, Ill.	4	Research	Shop
8	Honda Ridgeline	Lincoln, Ala.	6	Research	Shop
9	Honda Odyssey	Lincoln, Ala.	7	Research	Shop
10	Honda Pilot	Lincoln, Ala.	8	Research	Shop
11	Chevrolet Corvette	Bowling Green, Ky.	5	Research	Shop
12	GMC Canyon	Wentzville, Mo.	15	Research	Shop
13	Chevrolet Colorado	Wentzville, Mo.	14	Research	Shop
14	Acura MDX	East Liberty or Marysville, Ohio	Unranked	Research	Shop
15	Acura RDX	East Liberty or Marysville, Ohio	12	Research	Shop
16	Acura TLX	Marysville, Ohio	13	Research	Shop
17	Ford Ranger	Wayne, Mich.	28	Research	Shop
18	Ford Bronco	Wayne, Mich.	Unranked	Research	Shop
19	Dodge Durango	Detroit	36	Research	Shop
20	Ford Expedition, Expedition Max	Louisville, Ky.	11	Research	Shop

 

[Dave Z]

Both the Mopars are slated for demolition. but I'd be curious about their criteria.

 

[Erik Latranyi]

Bronco is more American than Wrangler. I can see Ford's marketing salivating......

 

[M. Packard]

That list would be majorly changed if it was North America in total. But that isn't the purpose of the survey. Three decades of NAFTA will do that. It was the original plan. Get in your time machine and give Ronald Reagan the bad news.

I wonder if the public could have afforded a car in the past if it was made only in the United States of America. No imports 100%. American aluminum, steel, paint, fluids, tires.
There are lots of -what if's- but the restrictions of the analysis is what it is. Pretty boxed in. A make work survey?

 

[MIKE3187]

Bronco is more American than Wrangler. I can see Ford's marketing salivating......

Wrangler is global (Bronco is not) and not losing sales to Bronco so I doubt its a solid marketing point

Ford Bronco Attracting New Customers To Off-Road Market, Not Stealing Jeep Wrangler Buyers

 

[Erik Latranyi]

Wrangler is global (Bronco is not) and not losing sales to Bronco so I doubt its a solid marketing point

Ford Bronco Attracting New Customers To Off-Road Market, Not Stealing Jeep Wrangler Buyers

I have read these stories and they are not exactly honest. You cannot come to a conclusion of Bronco vs Wrangler given the current market situation and the Bronco production limitation.

Let's see how this all works out in 2 more years when (hopefully) the supply chain situation is more resolved and there is not a shortage of vehicles to be purchased and Bronco production is at full volume.

Broncos are selling for $20K+ over sticker. Yes, Wrangler 392s are doing the same. But that is primarily because of the shortages.

The market today is basically if you have it in stock, it sells. Regardless. Bronco reservation holders have bought Wranglers while they wait.

 

[MIKE3187]

I have read these stories and they are not exactly honest. You cannot come to a conclusion of Bronco vs Wrangler given the current market situation and the Bronco production limitation.

Let's see how this all works out in 2 more years when (hopefully) the supply chain situation is more resolved and there is not a shortage of vehicles to be purchased and Bronco production is at full volume.

Broncos are selling for $20K+ over sticker. Yes, Wrangler 392s are doing the same. But that is primarily because of the shortages.

The market today is basically if you have it in stock, it sells. Regardless. Bronco reservation holders have bought Wranglers while they wait.

Given every automaker in the industry is dealing with the same economic issues, I would have to agree it might be a little premature BUT Bronco reservation holders moving to Wrangler doesn't sound like they're there for anything other than the novelty of a new product..

Could Ford argue theyre more American made? Sure, but maybe thats why theyre having issues with their production in the first place, chip shortage aside.. Where theres a will theres a way and the whole launch of their product has been riddled with issues

 

[DC-93]

Lol, they left out engineering, design, development and where the profits end up.

 

[AHBGuru]

LD/LA remain in the top 10:
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The Most American Cars and Trucks You Can Buy

This definition of 'American' includes Canadian parts and some questionable methodology, not necessarily the automaker's origin.

www.caranddriver.com

 

[Erik Latranyi]

Given every automaker in the industry is dealing with the same economic issues, I would have to agree it might be a little premature BUT Bronco reservation holders moving to Wrangler doesn't sound like they're there for anything other than the novelty of a new product..

Could Ford argue theyre more American made? Sure, but maybe thats why theyre having issues with their production in the first place, chip shortage aside.. Where theres a will theres a way and the whole launch of their product has been riddled with issues

Ford has screwed the pooch on product launches with many glitches and problems.

But they also have multiple hit products coming out at the same time (Bronco, Bronco Sport, Maverick, Lightning and Mustang Mach-E) which is not easy for any automaker, especially during a time of parts shortages.

Stellantis does not have any hit products that just came out and has the luxury of focusing production on higher margin vehicles (Ram, Wrangler, Grand Cherokee) while really slowing production of low margin vehicles (Pacifica, Cherokee, 300, Compass)

 

[sarkent11]

I find it interesting that NHTSA's website doesn't have numbers for any GM products and only a few FCA/Stellantis products for 2022 but somehow all these articles are popping up. It's also funny, as the Car and Driver link above notes, that nobody gets dinged for Canadian parts but does for Mexican parts. That's ultimately where the variance is coming from for a lot of the US brands - using Mexican parts, sometimes even if they have US final assembly, transmission, and engine components.

 

[Erik Latranyi]

I find it interesting that NHTSA's website doesn't have numbers for any GM products and only a few FCA/Stellantis products for 2022 but somehow all these articles are popping up. It's also funny, as the Car and Driver link above notes, that nobody gets dinged for Canadian parts but does for Mexican parts. That's ultimately where the variance is coming from for a lot of the US brands - using Mexican parts, sometimes even if they have US final assembly, transmission, and engine components.

You are right, a true "Made in USA" and "Made in North America" should be the only two categories. This "Made in America" by omitting Mexico is not intellectually honest since we are one trading zone.

 

[codypet]

Mexico is in North America. How can can you make a Made in North America list and then leave out a third of the countries?

 

[Zagnut27]

Mexico is in North America. How can can you make a Made in North America list and then leave out a third of the countries?

It’s in North America, but it’s south of ‘Merica. (Ok, I’ll see myself out)

 

[valiant67]

I was taught there were three Americas in school, North, South, and Central - but that Central was really part of North.
I take issue with people saying "American" when they really mean USA. It's a common issue both within the US and worldwide.

 

[codypet]

I was taught there were three Americas in school, North, South, and Central - but that Central was really part of North.

When I grew up I learned Central America was everything between Belize and Panama.

I take issue with people saying "American" when they really mean USA. It's a common issue both within the US and worldwide.

Agreed. American made could mean Brazil technically. US made and American made are two totally different things in my mind.