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Has anyone heard of when Ralph and Peugeot will start designing together? Are there any rumors on the table?

Imho, that is a marriage made in heaven and I'm totally enthused about the possibilities of what they can create.
 

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At least in the short period there will be no design centers merger.
Stellantis is a holding company.
Head of design is a managerial position, doesn't mean that the person design the vehicles.
 

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Head of design is a managerial position, doesn't mean that the person design the vehicles.
Yes, even if it is Ralph in some respect, he may provide some styling guidance and have approval authority, but not doing the work of the stylists.
 

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Ralph hasn't designed in years. He just goes around pushing brands a certain way now and overseeing the design process for it all
 

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Ralph hasn't designed in years. He just goes around pushing brands a certain way now and overseeing the design process for it all
That's like saying a guitarist can't play the guitar.

Believe me, his pens are active. He hasn't stopped designing since he was 12.
Its in his blood.
 

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When you get to a certain level, you just give an overall target and say 'make it so.' At his level, he is NOT working with CAD or getting into specifics of geometry, wheelbase, cabin room, etc.
 

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That's like saying a guitarist can't play the guitar.

Believe me, his pens are active. He hasn't stopped designing since he was 12.
Its in his blood.
His pen might be active but that's for himself, he's not putting pen to the paper/cintiq for designing for fca anymore and hasn't been for years. He has bigger issues on his plate than designing. Remember he has to overlook all of FCA to make sure the head of design for each brand understand the way they need to move forward and a bunch of other things
 

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Has anyone heard of when Ralph and Peugeot will start designing together? Are there any rumors on the table?

Imho, that is a marriage made in heaven and I'm totally enthused about the possibilities of what they can create.
Well he posted on his Instagram that he just bought a Peugeot so maybe he's starting to get inspiration from that
 

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The problem is someone has to rule design. For this merger to work, for the truth to be realized (SYNERGIZED = reduce the number of parts), for both Europe and North America, someone has to make the call for -

1) What platform will rule - EMP2 or small wide? Or are we going to just run things the way they are until 2025 or 2026 until the next C/D segment platform design occurs?
2) Depending on which platform wins, who is going to take the engineering lead - Auburn Hills or Europe?
3) Will there be localization of new products in the form of a different body/interior design? When do the localization requirements become factored in - during the initial design, or will they just have to adapt to what they've been given?
4) Who is going to manage the reduction in complexity in purchasing in consolidating the part releases to suppliers? Who is going to give the yes/no for part releases to make sure overall complexity is reduced?
 

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The problem is someone has to rule design. For this merger to work, for the truth to be realized (SYNERGIZED = reduce the number of parts), for both Europe and North America, someone has to make the call for -

1) What platform will rule - EMP2 or small wide? Or are we going to just run things the way they are until 2025 or 2026 until the next C/D segment platform design occurs?
2) Depending on which platform wins, who is going to take the engineering lead - Auburn Hills or Europe?
3) Will there be localization of new products in the form of a different body/interior design? When do the localization requirements become factored in - during the initial design, or will they just have to adapt to what they've been given?
4) Who is going to manage the reduction in complexity in purchasing in consolidating the part releases to suppliers? Who is going to give the yes/no for part releases to make sure overall complexity is reduced?
I would hope that they engineer and design cars for American tastes..."world cars" have historically not been successful in the US.
 

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The problem is someone has to rule design. For this merger to work, for the truth to be realized (SYNERGIZED = reduce the number of parts), for both Europe and North America, someone has to make the call for -

1) What platform will rule - EMP2 or small wide? Or are we going to just run things the way they are until 2025 or 2026 until the next C/D segment platform design occurs?
Neither based on “No More investing in Internal Combustion engines says Stellantis”

it would be eVMP Groupe PSA strengthens its electric offensive with a new eVMP platform (Electric Vehicle Modular Platform) | Media Groupe PSA


From the press release
  • The new eVMP platform will serve as the basis for a wide range of electric vehicles for the C- and D- segments.
 

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Didnt T_690 mention that platform isn't all that great?
This is an evolution of emp2 to more of a full electric. It has 400 miles of range WLTP and 325 hp. Not a hellcat, but decent. Upgrade the inverter and motors and it could go faster.
 

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The problem is someone has to rule design. For this merger to work, for the truth to be realized (SYNERGIZED = reduce the number of parts), for both Europe and North America, someone has to make the call for -

1) What platform will rule - EMP2 or small wide? Or are we going to just run things the way they are until 2025 or 2026 until the next C/D segment platform design occurs?
2) Depending on which platform wins, who is going to take the engineering lead - Auburn Hills or Europe?
3) Will there be localization of new products in the form of a different body/interior design? When do the localization requirements become factored in - during the initial design, or will they just have to adapt to what they've been given?
4) Who is going to manage the reduction in complexity in purchasing in consolidating the part releases to suppliers? Who is going to give the yes/no for part releases to make sure overall complexity is reduced?
The problem is: 2 completely different markets. North Americans are completely uninterested in the European cars sold by PSA or FCA, therefore N/A is completely starved of new car product since the europeans refuse to acknowledge that the only cars making money are Charger, Challenger and the 300, if they'd let it. All the car development has gone to Fiat, Alfa, and Maserati, none of which has been shared with N/A cars, not even some second hand maserati bits for chrysler. Europeans have zero interest in N/A vehicles other than a few Jeeps. Stellantis is now a European based corporation in which Chrysler, and N/A in general, have little to no say in product development, even though it has been the profit generator for FCA since the takeover. So while the Ram guys, and the Jeep guys are all smiles, everyone else is starving due to lack of new product or development. I don't think anyone gives a hoot about whats it's based on, just give us something to buy that isn't 15 years old!
 
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