[ptschett]

I put in a lot of hours (though not many miles) in a '69 C700 semi tractor - 413, 5+2 speed, single axle. It had been a short haul delivery truck in Chicago, then my dad & grandpa bought an old D7 Cat dozer for heavy earthwork on the farm in the 70's & needed a semi & low boy to haul that around. It stayed a semi till the early '00's when it was replaced with a diesel IH and my dad turned the Dodge into a dump truck.

 

[md80891]

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/ford/f850/1644257.html

62 Ford F-850 but listed with a 413.

 

[valiant67]

I still see the occasional old Dodge 700 series fire truck still in service here in the south.

 

[Guest]

I'd love to find a 76 77 D-700 or 800 to restore, but I'd have no place to put it, or have a use for it. The last versions of those trucks made in Mexico had square headlights and were made till the mid 90s there I believe. Then they switched to the Gen 2 cabs. If you have an 81 or newer Dodge truck and wondered what goes in the blank to the left of the radio, the ignition switch went there for the D600 trucks. And didn't the rear cab light switch go there as well? I had Ramchargers in the 80s so that place was always blank.

 

[68RT]

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/ford/f850/1644257.html

62 Ford F-850 but listed with a 413.

413 pump motor but 391 truck motor.

 

[md80891]

413 pump motor but 391 truck motor.

yes, but why mix brands, the separate pump engine is odd but we never had one with 4wd.Pity it does not say who the builder was.

 

[redriderbob]

 

[MoparNorm]

yes, but why mix brands, the separate pump engine is odd but we never had one with 4wd.Pity it does not say who the builder was.

Because the pump is the business end of that truck and they needed a reliable engine...from Chrysler...

 

[Guest]

Very true. Lol

 

[68RT]

Because the pump is the business end of that truck and they needed a reliable engine...from Chrysler...

Probably a 413 Industrial rated engine (not much HP but lots or torque) that would have sodium cooled valve stems, Eatonite valve seats and stellite exhaust valves standard. They were available with governors, PTO's, and really powerful cooling fans that would make a pump manufacture very happy to put in his spec.

 

[MoparNorm]

Probably a 413 Industrial rated engine (not much HP but lots or torque) that would have sodium cooled valve stems, Eatonite valve seats and stellite exhaust valves standard. They were available with governors, PTO's, and really powerful cooling fans that would make a pump manufacture very happy to put in his spec.

I was going to say 413-3 Industrial, but not sure many would get what that was. :lol:
Thanks for the added info.
Folks should know that Chrysler 3 series engines, or "industrial" engines were not confined to stationary products, the 300 400 and 500 Dodge trucks also used "industrial" dash 3 engines, which were de-tuned for longevity and had the sodium filled exhaust valves, HD cooling, different cam profiles and some serious cranks (All early cranks were forged) LA series went to cast cranks in about 1966-67, depending upon marketplace. A, B and RB stayed with forged cranks a while longer.

 

[68RT]

Just for info, the industrial 413 was rated as follows:

RPM NET HP Net Torque
1200 75 325
1600 106 350
2000 136 360
2400 163 355
2800 182 340
3200 194 320
3600 199 292
4000 200 260

Compression ratio was 7.5-1 with a two barrel carb. Not only was the crank forged, but was induction hardened. Hydraulic lifters were standard

 

[MoparNorm]

Yep, hydraulic lifters, low compression, built to last and last and last.

 

[68RT]

With rotators and valve seats, heads would almost never need work. Just oil changes (oil bath air cleaner) and tune ups. Single set of points, rotor cap & plugs and standard spark plug wires. Used to drive a M113 in Germany that had a 413 (everyone of themhad at least 4000 hours) but the government screwed up the ignition system with it's waterproof ignition and itty bitty coil. We finally received a newer one and it had a 6V-53.

 

[md80891]

63 Newport had a 413 but those industrial cranks will not interchange. 43 Dodge fire truck had an L head six and pumped 500gpm. It had a Rupp auxiliary engine and could pump on the run. 55 Dodge had a baby hemi and pumped 750 gpm, It also had a three piston Bean high pressure pump(loud). First 6x6 tanker we built had a V4 wisconsin cant remember what the second one had.

413 seems a bit big it is an odd truck would be nice to find out who the builder was.

 

[Jerry Simcik]

How 'bout we worry about making this one before we try to play in Freightliner's and International's market...

Yep, hydraulic lifters, low compression, built to last and last and last.

Quite a few of them (and Hemi's also) still in use in the Texas panhandle as pump motors...

 

[md80891]

whats the point on the longliner?

 

[Jerry Simcik]

The Long Hauler has a DOT-certified sleeping compartment and huge range. It's also got great hauling capacity, the best engine available in a HD truck, and a load-leveling suspension. It could also potentially offer a manual transmission.

It's a Hot-Shotter's dream.





Not to mention the equestrian, rodeo, and high-end RV hauler markets...

 

[md80891]

Hot Shot/Live stock/Fifth wheel dream is the old FL50/Fl60 now M2 sport chassis. And they use them for ambulances, municipal service trucks, landscape trucks. M2 now is over a hundred grand, whether there is enough volume is another story but we should be able to build and sell cheaper than that.

MAN has a hybrid with the REMY motor and one could lead the way with geared traction motors rendering the rest obsolete.

 

[Jerry Simcik]

The Sport Chassis is a Class 6 truck (or higher).

There's a lot of issues that pop up when you get to that class regarding DOT and fuel taxes that the Class 3-5 trucks can avoid.

And, having been in even the nicest Sport Chassis, they're not noticably different from a Laramie Longhorn or Limited...