Amen.It took one terrible dude about a year to one and a half after buying a chunk of Chrysler, LLC to update the better part of a dozen cars with new interiors, exteriors, and even a full ramp up of a brand-new engine for most of the company's products?
Funny enough, what's everyone's current complaint right now? Everything is stale. Nothing's been updated.
If Carlos won't even force Auburn Hills to do "the update the 1500 needs" within 2 years, then I'm not gonna have high hopes for much else. I'll be pessimistic about this whole thing.
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That's why this bunch at Auburn Hills seems so inept. They play games with all their intros and everything concerning last call garbage, but do zero to let real future customers in on what's coming. Lee was an absolute pro generating excitement.By keeping too many secrets, people will already decide certain brands are dead. It’s time to start building excitement that new stuff is coming. Stuff people would want. They didn’t keep secrets that the LH cars and Viper were coming.
Might I suggest that there may be some apprehension about announcing things too soon. With the previous leadership, things were cancelled/dropped that were already fully baked with prototype cars actually built and ready for production. With things getting cancelled for any reason back then, my guess is they want to test the waters to make sure the new leadership isn't all talk with them being ok with releasing new cars that aren't "guaranteed money makers".
I really hope they can stop reviving iconic names with vehicles that don't at all represent what the name was.
Looks like a needed truck but please do not call that the rampage.
Looks like a needed truck but please do not call that the rampage.
Thank you, exactly my thoughts. It’s nice to type on a forum and believe everything can happen that quick, but reality dictates otherwise.Let’s analyze this for a second. It’s obvious looking back that all that stuff didn’t happen in 1.5 years. Obviously a lot of that was started under the evil, hated Cerberus. That’s how it happened so quickly.
And now it’s obvious that very little was actually in progress as FCA handed things over. That’s why Carlos hasn’t “done” what Sergio “did” in 1.5 years
I can't imagine Cerberus approving many more then like 3 vehicle updates while they went right to sell out Chrysler faster than FCA tried to.Let’s analyze this for a second. It’s obvious looking back that all that stuff didn’t happen in 1.5 years. Obviously a lot of that was started under the evil, hated Cerberus. That’s how it happened so quickly.
And now it’s obvious that very little was actually in progress as FCA handed things over. That’s why Carlos hasn’t “done” what Sergio “did” in 1.5 years
But yet they did invest. Something FCA didn’t. They didn’t manipulate financials for a merger. Cerberus intended to build Chrysler up until the financials fell apart due to external factors.I can't imagine Cerberus approving many more then like 3 vehicle updates while they went right to sell out Chrysler faster than FCA tried to.
Cerberus in 22 months as owner:I can't imagine Cerberus approving many more then like 3 vehicle updates while they went right to sell out Chrysler faster than FCA tried to.
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Why not? The last Rampage was based on a small car Plymouth Scamp and Dodge Rampage: economy car based pickupsI really hope they can stop reviving iconic names with vehicles that don't at all represent what the name was.
Looks like a needed truck but please do not call that the rampage.
yall acting like the last Rampage was one of the greatest vehicles made.I really hope they can stop reviving iconic names with vehicles that don't at all represent what the name was.
Looks like a needed truck but please do not call that the rampage.
Right! and did we forget about this?Why not? The last Rampage was based on a small car Plymouth Scamp and Dodge Rampage: economy car based pickups
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Ford says "Due to high demand, the current model year is no longer available for retail order. Contact your dealer for more information." It isn't a lack of demand in the segment, Ford miscalculated the demand.I’m not sure what your definition of hot sellers is, but I wouldn’t call Ridgeline or Santa Cruz hot, 50k sales per year for either of these small trucks is elusive.
Include Maverick and the segment might qualify as warmer, but the old Toyota Tundra alone outsells all three of these small trucks combined (by a pretty significant margin).
Midsize is still hotter than small.
Ram should (and needs) to have small and midsize trucks to be a real truck brand, but the smaller trucks are still a niche market.
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If these are hints I think I can work with it.
Never commented on it's quality. Truck in the video will likely get referred to as the Dakota by the public. It being mid sized visually represents what the Dakota was. Reusing the nostalgic name Dakota makes more sense than Rampage in this case.yall acting like the last Rampage was one of the greatest vehicles made.
Right! and did we forget about this?
Although personally I'd let all the names retire.
The truck in this post is not a midsize. It is a fwd based unibody truck. Exactly the same as the original Rampage.Never commented on it's quality. Truck in the video will likely get referred to as the Dakota by the public. It being mid sized visually represents what the Dakota was. Reusing the nostalgic name Dakota makes more sense than Rampage in this case.
Although personally I'd let all the names retire.
Hmm somehow missed that. Doesn't look like it to me, still too truck like vs the old lifestyle designs. I realize we won't get a proper lifestyle design, that's why I don't like the name. Will have to agree to disagree with the masses I suppose. I don't think it looks like a Rampage at all.The truck in this post is not a midsize. It is a fwd based unibody truck. Exactly the same as the original Rampage.
Again, the point is it IS NOT a hot segment. Let's say Ford had enough capacity to meet Maverick demand.Ford says "Due to high demand, the current model year is no longer available for retail order. Contact your dealer for more information." It isn't a lack of demand in the segment, Ford miscalculated the demand.
Maverick might be a hot product, but the segment still sucks for the other players. Ridgeline and Santa Cruz show no signs of being hot commodities.
Ford made Maverick into a TRUCK, not a LIFESTYLE TRUCK and that is one huge fact that is separating it from Ridgeline and Santa Cruz in the market.Again, the point is it IS NOT a hot segment. Let's say Ford had enough capacity to meet Maverick demand.
Maverick might be a hot product, but the segment still sucks for the other players. Ridgeline and Santa Cruz show no signs of being hot commodities.
Yes, I agree. For all their other faults, Ford seems to understand underserved market segments.Ford made Maverick into a TRUCK, not a LIFESTYLE TRUCK and that is one huge fact that is separating it from Ridgeline and Santa Cruz in the market.
The new shape of trucks strongly resembled what used to be a sedan. Only (until you get a cargo cover) there is an open bed instead of a trunk.
The reason the Maverick is selling so much better than the Santa Cruz is because it looks like a truck, rather than like a crossover SUV with a bed.Hmm somehow missed that. Doesn't look like it to me, still too truck like vs the old lifestyle designs. I realize we won't get a proper lifestyle design, that's why I don't like the name. Will have to agree to disagree with the masses I suppose. I don't think it looks like a Rampage at all.
In fairness, the current Ridgeline is an actual truck and looks like one. The previous (first) gen looked more like a lifestyle crossover though.Ford made Maverick into a TRUCK, not a LIFESTYLE TRUCK and that is one huge fact that is separating it from Ridgeline and Santa Cruz in the market.
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