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Interesting that these models may still need the transaxle re-programmed the reviewer mentions excessive lugging and less than promised fuel economy.
The low-lights are; "Our only objections to the 2014 Cherokee's interior came by way of loose-feeling door panels--partly attributable to being a preproduction car--a smallish cargo bay, and a small, odd, and somewhat cheap-feeling mechanism for the tilt/telescoping steering wheel that we're sure had to have been cribbed from something out of the Fiat portfolio."
Overall, they liked the car.
The low-lights are; "Our only objections to the 2014 Cherokee's interior came by way of loose-feeling door panels--partly attributable to being a preproduction car--a smallish cargo bay, and a small, odd, and somewhat cheap-feeling mechanism for the tilt/telescoping steering wheel that we're sure had to have been cribbed from something out of the Fiat portfolio."
Overall, they liked the car.
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The complaints about the nine-speed are troublesome.
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I just don't know. I just can't figure out how the 8 speed has worked so well for the V6 but the nine isn't.MoparNorm said:
The mules in April were supposed late stage mules. I can't decide if they were early on mule production or late on delivery. Based on the known info that 200 mules are coming down the line with a January show debut... As an example for timing
No doubt he was forced to debut pics in April because the Internet was on fire over the plant mule pics.
We know a handful of Cherokee's really are heading for dealer rollout.
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Overall they liked the car.
"No. Instead, we'll just say this: You'd be an idiot not to consider the 2014 Jeep Cherokee if you're in the market for a new compact crossover. Between its technology, amenities, and abilities, it's a whole generation ahead of just about anything else in its class. It is a blueprint for what a Jeep should be both now and for decades to come."
I guess that would the conservative assestment of the above statement.
"No. Instead, we'll just say this: You'd be an idiot not to consider the 2014 Jeep Cherokee if you're in the market for a new compact crossover. Between its technology, amenities, and abilities, it's a whole generation ahead of just about anything else in its class. It is a blueprint for what a Jeep should be both now and for decades to come."
I guess that would the conservative assestment of the above statement.
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If I remember correctly, the 8-speeds were bought from ZF at first, then very little changed for Chrysler production.
The 9-speed, however, was simplified from drawings by Chrysler and produced here.
I wonder if it was over-simplified or is missing something that the ZF version has.
The 9-speed, however, was simplified from drawings by Chrysler and produced here.
I wonder if it was over-simplified or is missing something that the ZF version has.
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I worry that was a reaction...and not steady leadership execution of a plan.
The reaction was so stark and strong, they may have felt a compulsion to respond and rush an unfinished product out to market.
I hope not.
I hope they have the glitches fixed and are simply waiting to flood the dealers with product. However I question the giving of pre-production models to the press, if they aren't ready for prime time.
Yes that is normal, however this model,is not normal and the success or failure of it will be huge, this is not business as usual.
It assumes that the technology works, that the bugs can be sorted out and that folks care, in numbers that overcome the weak points.
It also assumes the industry would move in only one direction and remain stagnant for decades.
The reaction was so stark and strong, they may have felt a compulsion to respond and rush an unfinished product out to market.
I hope not.
I hope they have the glitches fixed and are simply waiting to flood the dealers with product. However I question the giving of pre-production models to the press, if they aren't ready for prime time.
Yes that is normal, however this model,is not normal and the success or failure of it will be huge, this is not business as usual.
That is their opinion.TripleT said:
It assumes that the technology works, that the bugs can be sorted out and that folks care, in numbers that overcome the weak points.
It also assumes the industry would move in only one direction and remain stagnant for decades.
The complaint (as I read it) was that it wanted to be in the upper range too soon. I find that to be a common issue with the latest models. They are using the tall gears to get the mileage rating up. Yes, it needs adjustment to bring the lower gears into use much quicker. Given the fact that they were in te3st mode, the mileage given was not that bad.Erik Latranyi said:
1974 Plymouth Valiant - 2013 Dodge Dart - 2013 Chrysler 300C
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You do not remember correctly.
Both transmissions were modified, primarily to match the production methods and quantities of the two manufacturers. The eight speed was also changed this year to increase the two ratings of Ram trucks.
That said, the software for the nine speed is much, much newer and will have to be refined, I think. The eight speed software, I'm sure, went through a number of revisions as time went on. That's just the way it is, even with the four speed and five speed.
These are adaptive automatics, and often if you are driving it right after someone else who drives very differently, you will have problems. Some writers are very aggressive, and some are shockingly slow. If you get alternating drivers like that, the transmission will screw up and quite regularly. That’s a characteristic of the 1990s-2010s four speeds, too!
Believe me, I've gotten enough review cars where the transmissions were totally weird for the first hour or two...
[added] As for getting into upper gears too soon, yes, that's common to many cars now. GM seems to be the worst, in my opinion, the transmissions always want to be in top gear, but don't want to downshift. That said, it was also a minor issue with the Durango five-speed I just drove.
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Two things here:
Isn't that how every transmission is when it's in it's higeest gear?
Also, the Cherokee doesn't have a true manumatic shift mode. It's an "ERS"
From the Owner's Manual:
Just because you "shift" up to 9th gear, doesn't actually put it into 9th gear...
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"We went into driving the Jeep Cherokee expecting it to be a dud, not because we expected it to be particularly bad. We thought it would drive okay, have an alright interior, look a little weird, and otherwise just be a pretty nice crossover. None of that would have made us give a second look. We didn't expect it to be overwhelming overachiever this Cherokee certainly is."
Wow, that's certainly some fine praise.
What this review did that another recently much discussed one didn't is point out perceived issues without making those issues be the substance of the review. It's certainly a bit fluffy in some respects but I think it's much more in line with the consensus.
I will also note that they are saying this thing is at least a generation ahead of the competitors. That's an awesome compliment and a sign that Chrysler/Fiat did their homework.
Wow, that's certainly some fine praise.
What this review did that another recently much discussed one didn't is point out perceived issues without making those issues be the substance of the review. It's certainly a bit fluffy in some respects but I think it's much more in line with the consensus.
I will also note that they are saying this thing is at least a generation ahead of the competitors. That's an awesome compliment and a sign that Chrysler/Fiat did their homework.
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As this is a thread on this review. I would say if they OPIONION ,is that is Drives as well if not better than a CX-5 and destroy every other model on interior styling and is light years ahead in the class off road, and every thing else should benchmark I will go ahead and say they like it a whole lot.MoparNorm said:I worry that was a reaction...and not steady leadership execution of a plan.
The reaction was so stark and strong, they may have felt a compulsion to respond and rush an unfinished product out to market.
I hope not.
I hope they have the glitches fixed and are simply waiting to flood the dealers with product. However I question the giving of pre-production models to the press, if they aren't ready for prime time.
Yes that is normal, however this model,is not normal and the success or failure of it will be huge, this is not business as usual.
That is their opinion.
It assumes that the technology works, that the bugs can be sorted out and that folks care, in numbers that overcome the weak points.
It also assumes the industry would move in only one direction and remain stagnant for decades.
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You know whats more interesting is that with all of the postive in this review you took the time to point out the only negative statements that were made.......MoparNorm said:
It came equipped with the same 184 horsepower "Tigershark" 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine as the upcoming 2014 Dodge Dart. We were expecting it to behave like a basic small crossover without much dynamic prowess. Instead, we got what might be one of the few credible alternatives to the Mazda CX-5when it comes to fun utility vehicles.
Read more: http://www.automotive.com/jeep/cherokee/2014/first-drive/#ixzz2fHZ2pzOl
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