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Yes, it needs to be sorted out quick. The eight speed is applauded. They need the same from the nine speed.Erik Latranyi said:The complaints about the nine-speed are troublesome.
It was first revealed in April, 2013. That may prove to have been 12 months early.Mike V. said:Yes, it needs to be sorted out quick. The eight speed is applauded. They need the same from the nine speed.
Mike
I just don't know. I just can't figure out how the 8 speed has worked so well for the V6 but the nine isn't.MoparNorm said:It was first revealed in April, 2013. That may prove to have been 12 months early.
Could the leaked photos have panicked M into a premature roll-out?
That is their opinion.TripleT said:"It is a blueprint for what a Jeep should be both now and for decades to come."
The complaint (as I read it) was that it wanted to be in the upper range too soon. I find that to be a common issue with the latest models. They are using the tall gears to get the mileage rating up. Yes, it needs adjustment to bring the lower gears into use much quicker. Given the fact that they were in te3st mode, the mileage given was not that bad.Erik Latranyi said:The complaints about the nine-speed are troublesome.
You do not remember correctly.If I remember correctly, the 8-speeds were bought from ZF at first, then very little changed for Chrysler production.
The 9-speed, however, was simplified from drawings by Chrysler and produced here.
Two things here:So what are the downsides? The new nine-speed transmission lugs in higher gears at times to preserve fuel economy; we saw about 22 mpg over the course of a day with the two-wheel-drive Latitude and about 19 mpg with a V-6, all-wheel-drive Limited. That makes it feel a little more sluggish than one might expect and certainly slower than a 2.0-liter EcoBoost Escape in a seat-of-the-pants, unscientific comparison. Adding to that feeling of leisure was the Jeep's manumatic shift function, which proved slow and would often display selected gears on the car's TFT monitor even though it was obvious we weren't using them, like ninth gear at 45 mph for instance.
Just because you "shift" up to 9th gear, doesn't actually put it into 9th gear...Electronic Range Select (ERS) Operation
The Electronic Range Select (ERS) shift control allows the driver to limit the highest available gear. For example, if you shift the transmission into 5 (fifth gear), the transmission will not shift above fifth gear, but will shift through the lower gears normally. You can switch between DRIVE and ERS mode at any vehicle speed. When the shift lever is in the DRIVE position, the transmission will operate automatically, shifting between all available gears.
Moving the shift lever to the ERS position (beside DRIVE) will activate ERS mode, display the current gear in the instrument cluster, and maintain that gear as the top available gear. Once in ERS mode, moving the shift lever forward (-) or rearward (+) will change the top available gear. To exit ERS mode, simply return the shift lever to the DRIVE position.
NOTE: To select the proper gear position for maximum deceleration (engine braking), simply press and hold the shift lever forward (-). The transmission will shift to the range from which the vehicle can best be slowed down.
As this is a thread on this review. I would say if they OPIONION ,is that is Drives as well if not better than a CX-5 and destroy every other model on interior styling and is light years ahead in the class off road, and every thing else should benchmark I will go ahead and say they like it a whole lot.MoparNorm said:I worry that was a reaction...and not steady leadership execution of a plan.
The reaction was so stark and strong, they may have felt a compulsion to respond and rush an unfinished product out to market.
I hope not.
I hope they have the glitches fixed and are simply waiting to flood the dealers with product. However I question the giving of pre-production models to the press, if they aren't ready for prime time.
Yes that is normal, however this model,is not normal and the success or failure of it will be huge, this is not business as usual.
That is their opinion.
It assumes that the technology works, that the bugs can be sorted out and that folks care, in numbers that overcome the weak points.
It also assumes the industry would move in only one direction and remain stagnant for decades.![]()
I was very happy to read that.TripleT said:As this is a thread on this review. I would say if they OPIONION ,is that is Drives as well if not better than a CX-5 and destroy every other model on interior styling and is light years ahead in the class off road, and every thing else should benchmark I will go ahead and say they like it a whole lot.
Pretty sure Mazda has been the benchmark for each of the segments it competes in when it comes to handling/fun to drive.UN4GTBL said:I was very happy to read that.
It seems the CX-5 is the benchmark for handling in this segment.
You know whats more interesting is that with all of the postive in this review you took the time to point out the only negative statements that were made.......MoparNorm said:Interesting that these models may still need the transaxle re-programmed the reviewer mentions excessive lugging and less than promised fuel economy.
The low-lights are; "Our only objections to the 2014 Cherokee's interior came by way of loose-feeling door panels--partly attributable to being a preproduction car--a smallish cargo bay, and a small, odd, and somewhat cheap-feeling mechanism for the tilt/telescoping steering wheel that we're sure had to have been cribbed from something out of the Fiat portfolio."
Overall, they liked the car.
The only controversy about the 2014 Jeep Cherokee's interior is how much better it is than anything else in the class. And we find that surprising to say. Chrysler hasn't always had the best interiors out there, but this one is far and away better than anything it competes against,
Read more: http://www.automotive.com/jeep/cherokee/2014/first-drive/#ixzz2fHYLTelP
Then, there's more cloth covering door panels. It's not a huge deal, but it shows Jeep sweated the small stuff, and it makes even the cheapest versions feel quite upscale.
Read more: http://www.automotive.com/jeep/cherokee/2014/first-drive/#ixzz2fHYkVxAs
It came equipped with the same 184 horsepower "Tigershark" 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine as the upcoming 2014 Dodge Dart. We were expecting it to behave like a basic small crossover without much dynamic prowess. Instead, we got what might be one of the few credible alternatives to the Mazda CX-5when it comes to fun utility vehicles.
Read more: http://www.automotive.com/jeep/cherokee/2014/first-drive/#ixzz2fHZ2pzOl
It's also remarkable how quiet and refined its driving behavior is over the road, as we had the opportunity to drive it back-to-back with a Toyota RAV4 and Ford Escape--both fine crossovers in their own rights--and we couldn't help but think how much less noise and vibration were transmitted to the Jeep's cabin.
Read more: http://www.automotive.com/jeep/cherokee/2014/first-drive/#ixzz2fHZVtUcQ
Whether using one of the number of off-road modes provided by Jeep's four-wheel-drive system or winging it, the Cherokee Trailhawk proved unstoppable. While this thing may be based on a compact Alfa Romeo hatchback sold overseas, no one should doubt its abilities. It's breathtaking to say the very least. I have a picture of me driving down a steep hill with a wheel in the air and my best "Holy crap" face to prove it.
Read more: http://www.automotive.com/jeep/cherokee/2014/first-drive/#ixzz2fHZyWHh8
We went into driving the Jeep Cherokee expecting it to be a dud, not because we expected it to be particularly bad. We thought it would drive okay, have an alright interior, look a little weird, and otherwise just be a pretty nice crossover. None of that would have made us give a second look. We didn't expect it to be overwhelming overachiever this Cherokee certainly is.
Read more: http://www.automotive.com/jeep/cherokee/2014/first-drive/#ixzz2fHaLSsVF
You'd be an idiot not to consider the 2014 Jeep Cherokee if you're in the market for a new compact crossover. Between its technology, amenities, and abilities, it's a whole generation ahead of just about anything else in its class. It is a blueprint for what a Jeep should be both now and for decades to come.
Read more: http://www.automotive.com/jeep/cherokee/2014/first-drive/#ixzz2fHaVZfmb