[N.leo]

No doubt its better than a Caravan but its also a ten year old product now. Voyager/Grand Caravan is supposed to be a value model, it needs to be cheaper.

If it were me I would be choosing the Grand Caravan simply because it has less things to break. But the value part of the equation isn't there. $50000 plus for cloth seats? That vehicle should be in the low 30s.

 

[N.leo]

I disagree. Younger people I know are very much motivated by higher spec features.

I am 36, I will not buy a car without keyless entry a moonroof or dual zone automatic climate control.

 

[N.leo]

No wonder they can't compete when the competition offers better pricing and incentives. They must be ignorant.

No, they just thought the consumer was.

 

[N.leo]

Im 36 and hate chasing electrical issues hence I hate all these features.

There is definitely a limit for me as well. My last two cars are comparatively simple and right now I am actively looking for a new car that is also simple.

I don't want a motor with Stop-Start. I don't want a small motor with a turbo. I don't want cylinder deactivation. I will not buy a CVT or a DCT if I can help it.

I don't need my car to drive for me. Blind spot monitoring and a rear view cam, I love though.

I don't need power seats/memory.

I don't need electric blinds in the back seat.

Nor do I need stuff like giant infotainment screens.

But the stuff I want are not negotiable.

 

[N.leo]

Lol nah, I am lazy. It must not need physical force to move.