The knob would still have paddles, like the Ram has a selector buttons.69DartGTS said:The only cars i see having it is the Ram, Durango, and Chryslers. Its a Luxury Item (see Jaguars) and good for Utility vehicles. a Charger/Challenger with a Knob instead Paddle Shifters (which is in a sense, Sportier) just isnt right.
I find that odd. The C is supposed to be the lux package, but has no paddle shifters or sport mode... was that added on later? I don't know if you have a 12 and it was added in 13, or if it'll be added in 14... but I do find it odd either way.Dave said:Yes, Tomguy, that's exactly where I have a problem. Unfortunately our 300C has no sport mode, just low gear. Also no paddle shifters! Those were on the lower trim level, the 300S, with the more powerful engine. They were not optional, either, or I'd have gotten 'em.
Yea its called the DDCT which nobody in America likes apparently.Charger Red said:I'm OK with the knob change as long as it doesn't evolve into the Jag type that retracts into the console when not in use (yet another complexity that will need servicing over time).
Listening to recent complaints about the myiads of ways to control an auto trans it seems ironic that what was supposed to be "automatic" with respect to this activity has evolved into something far more complex than the classic three pedals plus stick configuration.
If people are so enamored with shifting gears why don't they opt for manual transmissions? Is the clutch so off putting? I believe that there's an electronic solution for this as well...
Yeah, it's too bad the there is no way of changing gears yourself with the 300 if you don't buy a V6 300S, V8 300s or SRT.Dave said:Yes, Tomguy, that's exactly where I have a problem. Unfortunately our 300C has no sport mode, just low gear. Also no paddle shifters! Those were on the lower trim level, the 300S, with the more powerful engine. They were not optional, either, or I'd have gotten 'em.
Great idea!JRS200x said:They could make the shifter whatever they wanted, buttons, the knob whatever. It is all electronically controlled anyhow, so basically they just pick whatever control mechanism they like best, it could be buttons if they wanted, it really doesn't matter. That is true for the 8 or 9 speed.
I think the reality is. The only real problem with the eshifter "joy stick" is that it has no set points. I see nothing wrong with a "joystick". Just that it needs to be revised so that you can immediately drop into the gear you want with out any "guess work".JRS200x said:They could make the shifter whatever they wanted, buttons, the knob whatever. It is all electronically controlled anyhow, so basically they just pick whatever control mechanism they like best, it could be buttons if they wanted, it really doesn't matter. That is true for the 8 or 9 speed.
Gloved hand access, preventing a more wrap around IP, inhibits access to the lower center stack if the lever were mounted on the floor.Tomguy said:So basically what you're saying is keep the old-school PRND(SL) but it's 100% electronic, so it's more conventional and comfortable for all, right?
I don't think that's a bad idea BUT I can only assume that would have been their first logical choice, and they did not do that for a reason.
One of the reasons I heard was space. The e-shifter takes up less space. And looking at it, I can attest to that. However, the knob takes up even less space. To me it's not even about being conventional, so much as I think the e-shifter is more annoying than they likely realized. People like me who are accustomed to dropping it into gear solely by feel would find it less reliable in that end. And really, everything is supposed to be about convenience. Me not having to look at the dash to see what gear I am is more convenient.Tomguy said:So basically what you're saying is keep the old-school PRND(SL) but it's 100% electronic, so it's more conventional and comfortable for all, right?
I don't think that's a bad idea BUT I can only assume that would have been their first logical choice, and they did not do that for a reason.