Just took a little longer, with more sliced-up hands and swearing than if I had done it when the engine was out a month ago.Bob ONeill said:Last I heard, FWD gets them from TurbosUnleashed. I may be wrong. But I got mine directly from the source, TurbosUnleashed. The installation was done with the engine out of the car which made it far easier to install on the turbo (top). I suspect it will just take longer if the engine is in the car.