[codypet]

A bit Kia-ish but okay.

I don't know where the KIA comes from, but styling is pretty subjective.
IIRC they were shooting for a 3rd gen homage to the front end. It'll look a bit like it.

 

[link3721]

It's a major leap in capability and power, but I still can't help but think they will regret leaving the higher security of QNX. I will also wonder how much information Google is collecting on where we drive every day. Android's core is open source but it's surrounded by proprietary Google stuff and we know Google loves your data. They've made billions on their “free” software.

The Alexa Assistant, in fairness, is worse.

QNX is a product you pay for. You are not the product, QNX is. Android is a product you don't pay for. That makes you the product.

If you’re using an Android phone, Google may be tracking every move you make (at https://qz.com/1183559/if-youre-using-an-android-phone-google-may-be-tracking-every-move-you-make/ )
'Alexa, are you invading my privacy?' – the dark side of our voice assistants (at https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/oct/09/alexa-are-you-invading-my-privacy-the-dark-side-of-our-voice-assistants )

I am pretty impressed, though, with the increased capabilities. I'll have to think about how much I want Google to know about me, but in this age of facial recognition cameras and license plate readers and such, maybe it doesn't matter any more. All your data—medical, financial, location—belongs to anyone who has a few bucks to buy it.

(I can't help but think that all this facial recognition/instant location info is a major boon for the mob. They can now figure out if someone is an informant or undercover agent in minutes, and extortion must be a breeze.)

Using Android as the OS doesn't inherently mean Google will be able to access the data without limits. It'll be determined by the added services and apps that may or may not be installed with the OS. While general security may not be the same as QNX, Google seems to be pretty good about timely security updates.

People should be able to limit the data sharing, however I'm fine with certain data being shared. My thought is, what's the worst Google will do? Try and sell me stuff? I'm much more concerned with the government getting the data than Google itself.

 

[DarkSky]

It's a major leap in capability and power, but I still can't help but think they will regret leaving the higher security of QNX. I will also wonder how much information Google is collecting on where we drive every day. Android's core is open source but it's surrounded by proprietary Google stuff and we know Google loves your data. They've made billions on their “free” software.

The Alexa Assistant, in fairness, is worse.

QNX is a product you pay for. You are not the product, QNX is. Android is a product you don't pay for. That makes you the product.

If you’re using an Android phone, Google may be tracking every move you make (at https://qz.com/1183559/if-youre-using-an-android-phone-google-may-be-tracking-every-move-you-make/ )
'Alexa, are you invading my privacy?' – the dark side of our voice assistants (at https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/oct/09/alexa-are-you-invading-my-privacy-the-dark-side-of-our-voice-assistants )

I am pretty impressed, though, with the increased capabilities. I'll have to think about how much I want Google to know about me, but in this age of facial recognition cameras and license plate readers and such, maybe it doesn't matter any more. All your data—medical, financial, location—belongs to anyone who has a few bucks to buy it.

(I can't help but think that all this facial recognition/instant location info is a major boon for the mob. They can now figure out if someone is an informant or undercover agent in minutes, and extortion must be a breeze.)

If Microsoft or Apple wanted to make an open source infotainment software, I'd be all for it. It wouldn't be much of a stretch for either of them. Apple has been opening up their "closed garden" for the past few years and they now have quite a few variations of iOS, including one for the HomePod, Apple TV, iPad, even the Apple Watch's WatchOS is a variation of iOS. The Touch Bar in the MacBook Pro also apparently runs on a modified version of WatchOS, which as I said is a variation of iOS. They are also allowing TVs from brands like Samsung and LG to include Apple TV apps built in to stream Apple's content, so the idea of using a modified version of iOS to power infotainment systems to allow native streaming of Apple Music (or Spotify) without connecting an iPhone isn't unrealistic.

FWIW, that would be my ideal scenario.

 

[Dave Z]

I'd certainly rather use Apple (“we don’t sell your personal data or use it in our thousand other products or leak it to everyone on the planet”) than Amazon or Android (“privacy is for our CEO, not you”).

As for the worst Google can do, we already know that. They can and will give and sell it to all sorts of sleazy people. Amazon is worse.

Your phone company is probably worst.

ajit-pai-carrier-sales-of-phone-location-data-is-illegal-fcc-plans-punishment

(Summary: phone carriers have been selling, at absurdly low prices, real-time locations of customers, by name. They promised to stop. They didn't. FCC chief Ajit Pai is pretending he's going to fine them. He won't.)

 

[DarkSky]

I'd certainly rather use Apple (“we don’t sell your personal data or use it in our thousand other products or leak it to everyone on the planet”) than Amazon or Android (“privacy is for our CEO, not you”).

As for the worst Google can do, we already know that. They can and will give and sell it to all sorts of sleazy people. Amazon is worse.

I had a couple Amazon Echos that I replaced with a HomePod. Siri isn't quite as bad as people say... Alexa is super creepy. Just imagine sitting in your living room watching TV and hearing Alexa randomly laugh, which happened at least once.

 

[Dave Z]

I had a couple Amazon Echos that I replaced with a HomePod. Siri isn't quite as bad as people say... Alexa is super creepy. Just imagine sitting in your living room watching TV and hearing Alexa randomly laugh, which happened at least once.

Siri has gotten much better in recent years. She tends to understand me now. Well, he does (I have him set to Australian, mate.)

 

[T_690]

Google assistant is by far the best.

 

[DarkSky]

Google assistant is by far the best.

Maybe so, but in terms of securing your data and having a well-integrated ecosystem of devices... no thanks.

 

[T_690]

And it can recognize almost all languages.

 

[Dave Z]

And it can recognize almost all languages.

Which is only important if you speak a language Siri does not, and don't mind Google using your personal data while Amazon sells it.

I don't mind Android so much as Alexa, which I hope is optional.