And it would be really nice if people were not called stupid or lazy in posts.

 

If anyone observing is wondering, the moderators are getting tired.

 

Just ban the offenders.

 

You might want to pin this for a bit.

 

Some of them have been punished numerous times. They come back for more. Some offer little value for the trouble and should be removed, IMO.

 

This is a problem everywhere. I go to AACA and a couple of others and occasionally whole threads have to be deleted.

 

We have a small number of members who have started injecting politics into these forums on a more-than-daily basis.

I personally don't know what the intent is, but I believe I speak for all the moderators when I say it's time to stop.

People know about climate change, electric cars, and such already... or have chosen not to know. All the talking points are out there.

Unless there is something of particular insightfulness and uniqueness – and relevance to Stellantis in particular – please post it somewhere else.

Thank you,
Dave Z

Happens all too often. Most of these people are edge lords, just looking to get a rise out of people. Super annoying.

 

I agree, and if you feel like you need to inject some overused "bumper sticker" like political comment just remember before you post. Take a deep breath and remember that in the finite time you will exist in this world, that God blessed us with the nirvana, the calming perfection, the mechanical miracle, that is the slant six.

 

Amen

 

While I made this thread sticky, I object to the moderator control for it, “Stick thread.”

 

I do get what Dave Z is saying and mostly agree. However, so much of our lives today is so deeply embedded in some form of political context. For me at my age its not the kind of thing I like but its out there and we deal with it daily. Almost all topics and subjects today will find it way into the arena of politics because we have allowed it to happen.

 

Personally, I don't object so much to the politics as to the "holding-my-hands-to-my-ears-while-screaming" politics that denies any shared reality and relies solely upon the extremists’ talking points.

We used to be able to discuss things rationally, now most politics is religion. It's also brought in unnecessarily on a constant basis. I mean, seriously, in a discussion on future EVs, we do NOT need to hear someone's crackpot "climate change is a conspiracy" theories yet again, or the paranoid "you're all out to get my perfect energy source" rants, etc., etc. After all, we can talk about the gasoline engine announcements without going into depth on oil and gasoline theory, right? (I have a friend who witnessed the Shell genocide first-hand, but he doesn't go to car forums to lambast gasoline engines every day).

Sorry if the example is introducing politics in itself, but seriously, there are topics that every. freakin’. time. bring up all the same talking points.

Note to moderators: as always I can be warned if you feel fit.

 

I tend to slam a 'check for insult, previous argument, political?' filter if any reply post starts with "It's obvious that..." or "Well, its obvious...".
<Then I edit my own post instantly because why didn't I add...>
I prefer seeing 'While.' used as it can be a agreement to disagree. If manners are used it may not be taken as a dismissive insult. Then move on.

 

Good indicators.

I agree.

Any post ending with "Have a nice day." is an insult, too...

 

I think one thing that may effect the injection of politics into topics is the fact that so many of us come from different cultures with different geographic areas and they will clash. Like said above be respectful and aware of the differentness of the huge geographic cultures

So your saying Dave "Have a nice day" at the end of a post is like my wife saying "fine" to me ... lol

 

So your saying Dave "Have a nice day" at the end of a post is like my wife saying "fine" to me ... lol

I'm referring to a Facebook specific issue where people deliver harsh insults and end with "have a nice day" - you would not do that kind of drive-by.

 

As I posted in a different thread,

“…you've fallen for one of the two classic blunders! The first being never get involved in a land war in Asia but only slightly lesser known: never go in against a cicelean when DEATH is on the line! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA”.

And slightly lesser known still, is to never engage in a conversation about politics, religion, or climate change on Allpar!!!

Or flywheels….I mean, who knew flies had wheels anyway??

 

As I posted in a different thread,

“…you've fallen for one of the two classic blunders! The first being never get involved in a land war in Asia but only slightly lesser known: never go in against a cicelean when DEATH is on the line! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA”.

And slightly lesser known still, is to never engage in a conversation about politics, religion, or climate change on Allpar!!!

Or flywheels….I mean, who knew flies had wheels anyway??

Yup.
Also, “Sicilian.”

 

It's a sad time when grown men choose to be insulted by a "Have a nice day."

Thanks
Randy

 

Have a shitty day!
😱😳🤣

 

Have a shitty day!
😱😳🤣

Well, since my wife and I have become vegan, every day could be such…..the are indeed wonderful.

 

Stick to cars and politics if it pertains to the comment/story/article..Politics ruins people and friendships...Keep this MOPAR and Stellantis related...

 

Then maybe we shouldn’t say anything, just post videos of us nodding yes, or shaking our head no. But then there could be a hint of a smile while you shake your head, so that might imply laughing at the poster. Or a hint of a frown while nodding, so that might imply agreement, but begrudgingly so…or condescension Whew….who knew this could be soooooooooo hard?? And hard, as in difficult and not as in rigid or inflexible…..geez….I’m going to be typing for days if this keeps up! And up, as in duration and not the directional up…



(this is probably why the comments were usually locked when making threads like this…”read only”, because of childish jackwagons like me).

 

Well...There's always cat / kitten videos!

 

Those emojis look like the stages of reaction to getting a prostate exam…and could be read from left to right or vice Versa depending on your preferences….zing!

 

 

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remind me of Nanna and George our gone-but-not-forgotten ragdoll mix fur babie.

 

Fence building around words we use is a lost art. During my consulting years we were taught and I learned to use fences.
Could
Should
Maybe
Possibly
Potential
Seems
Yes while
Many many more
The way information and changes happen so fast today "not much" is set in stone. Instead of saying "nothing", which is wrong "not much" gives me cover. Speaking in absolutes today is dangerous.

 

Whining about censorship at allpar rarely works out well for those who do it, because we go back and look and say, "Oh, yes, he deserved that."

The bad words filter has been out of order for a long time.

The moderators are currently talking about a no-warnings, immediate suspension for injection of politics. Not banning, but suspension. For “either” side.

 

Whining about censorship at allpar rarely works out well for those who do it, because we go back and look and say, "Oh, yes, he deserved that."

The bad words filter has been out of order for a long time.

The moderators are currently talking about a no-warnings, immediate suspension for injection of politics. Not banning, but suspension. For “either” side.

The expected or required conditions for posting should be clearly posted and fully explained, and emailed to all forum members.

 

Thanks, Zagnut.

These days I am less concerned with passing profanity and more concerned with flaming and trolling.

 

Thank you Dave. Some of us are just about as politicked out as we can be.