Think it might be time to send the ol' 1990 Plymouth Grand Voyager to that celestial junk yard....which I hate to to, because it's still in REALLY nice shape....you may remember me asking about that weird intermittent noise a couple months back...well, wife was driving it, she stopped at the end of the driveway to get the mail, and when she tried to pull in, it wouldn't go...lost D and R........I went out there a little later, still no D, but had 1 & 2......next day, I wnet out & had to move it to get something in the garge, D worked but still no reverse.....so, I rolled it down the driveway & checked the fluid.....looked a little low, so I threw in some more fluid (YES I used the +4 stuff).....didn't help. no reverse, so I pulled it up into the driveway & just as I hit the brkaes, it started bucking & shuddering like a stick shift car when you lug it too far down in 2nd......shut it off, restarted, same thing......Something tells me this ain't gonna be a quick & easy fix here......I hate to get rid of it, but does it really make sense to throw yet another tranny (this thing had 6 dealer replacements when it was new) and another 2 or 3 grand at it.....the flip side here is the vehicle replacement cost....what could replace it for the price of the tranny job.....NOT looking to spend a lot, if I go 50 miles a week its a lot, but need a "stuff" hauler......any thoughts?