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You Are in Charge of Chrysler. What Would You Do?

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Every once in a while someone creates another doom and gloom thread about Chrysler.


Why not talk about what you actually want to see from them?


This one is a different perspective. Imagine you are in Fuell's role. How would you want to reshape the brand?
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I would stay in that whole "blue collar luxury" idea: looks and feels premium, but cheaper than the competition you think it should be up against.
Only hit the markets that matter: Crossovers and SUV's, all unibody. Don't be afraid to use older names (I don't care if it had a bad reputation to the general public, I'd use PT Cruiser in a heartbeat).
Give them the options that matter, and 100% offer hybrids whenever possible.
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Pacifica mini-van
An SUV based on the Stelvio platform.
A 300 sedan and wagon (they haven't completely gone away).
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On road, soft, premium, but not expensive. Lincoln is doing okay with this image, but in my opinion, Buick is losing it. This is where Chrysler can step in. Make beautiful cars that drive and handle soft and are very efficient.
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On road, soft, premium, but not expensive. Lincoln is doing okay with this image, but in my opinion, Buick is losing it. This is where Chrysler can step in. Make beautiful cars that drive and handle soft and are very efficient.
Lincoln is expensive... On par with Cadillac.
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Lincoln is expensive... On par with Cadillac.
Getting rid of the MKZ definitely didn't help with that. It was relatively affordable, but felt premium. Now with only SUVs they are getting more expensive.
I would stay in that whole "blue collar luxury" idea: looks and feels premium, but cheaper than the competition you think it should be up against.
That sentence says a lot and is right on target, they just need to express that vision without saying blue collar.
Looking and feeling premium needs to apply to the styling, quality, and dealer experience.
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I would follow along with what Buick is doing, they seem to be relatively successful, but add a full-size sedan that could be hybrid or EV keeping the 300 name would be a good idea it has brand recognition, and styling would be key it would still need to be bold like the current.

Just my thoughts.
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Pacifica
Town & Country (Larger)
Sigma/Sigma+ Crossovers
Imperial Liftback
PT Cruiser
Crossfire
New Yorker
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Chrysler is the only domestic brand I would make all electric, a near luxury Tesla fighter.
I’d have a 300 sedan, Airflow hatchback, Midsize Adventurer SUV, Full-size Aspen SUV and Pacifica Minivan.
I’d consider a performance Crossfire coupe and convertible too.
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So, I'm not going to wade too far into this, because I've been wrong in the past on what I think should (or shouldn't) be done with the Chrysler brand. I was staunchly against discontinuing the 200, but I realize it was the right decision to make give the trend toward SUVs. I figure someone inside Chrysler has better access to more data than we'll ever have on this forum. The only thing I can suggest is Chrysler actually find a brand identity, because it doesn't have one right now. Maybe low-cost luxury is the right move? I think they were on to something with the "Imported from Detroit" campaign.
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Pacifica
Town & Country (Larger)
Sigma/Sigma+ Crossovers
Imperial Liftback
PT Cruiser
Crossfire
New Yorker
Allow me to respond to your Chrysler and Dodge proposals in one response. I would say trim each lineup to about foujr models, complementing each other. With all the American marques in one showroom you don't want sales cannibilization. Lose the Town and Country for starters. This is drifting into Durango/Wagoneer territory. Same with Crossfire. It should be a Dodge. Make the Imperial a four and five door mid sized sedan. I am not familiar with the Fiat platforms, maybe make the New Yorker a straightforward rebadged Alfa?
No one wants to hear this, but I want Chrysler to be the volume brand. Something someone can go to instead of Toyota, Chevy, or Hyundai. Something Walter P. Chrysler would be proud of, a car line that prides itself on high-tech and high-line features and solid engineering but stays within reach of the middle class. Something that can provide a base for Dodge to build eye-popping performance cars and Jeep to make rough road explorers from.
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No one wants to hear this, but I want Chrysler to be the volume brand. Something someone can go to instead of Toyota, Chevy, or Hyundai. Something Walter P. Chrysler would be proud of, a car line that prides itself on high-tech and high-line features and solid engineering but stays within reach of the middle class. Something that can provide a base for Dodge to build eye-popping performance cars and Jeep to make rough road explorers from.
Agreed. Chrysler needs to sell affordable cars to have any success. They are not a serious luxury brand.

When they did this in the past is when they had the most success.
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I would resurrect the B and C-Bodies of the 1960's and 1970's, including the Station Wagons; and even develop a Coupe Utility (Car-based Pickup Truck) that would have competed with the El Camino, and the Ranchero back in the day; all in the present day.
I would do an intense market research and viability study and figure out what Chrysler has to be and what Chrysler has to look like, using bob Sheaves' methods as well as Aldo's... and then go on from there. My personal preferences are not valid for the population. I'd also try to remember what worked in the 1990s with regard to observing people's use of cars, choosing love/hate designs where valid, and such. In the absence of data I'd return to PT/Prowler styling for one line of cars, Chrysler Classics, while having others that are quite modern — because why not?
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A little in jest, but I wonder why (so far anyway) no one has answered "trade jobs with <other division head>!" 🤣
Chrysler as entry level luxury.

Crossfire as 2 dr convertible and coupe
Airflow same as concept
300 4 door sedan/wagon large
New Yorker 4 door small suv with styling similar to Crossfire (like what Ford’s done with the Mach-E)
Imperial Crown stretched 300 (like Wagoneer is to Jeep)
Imperial Phaeton similar to the Phaeton concept

Trim levels would be base, Touring, Limited, Platinum
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Technically my lineups for Dodge and Chrysler have no sedans. The 'sedans' are all liftbacks.
The biggest problem, especially as inflation and interest rates rise, and wages continue to stagnate, is that Chrysler has no value line of vehicles. Dodge is not the do-all, be-all division that FCA and Stellantis wish it were, and Chrysler itself was not traditionally a "value" brand. That was always Plymouth.

Stellantis is going to have a hard time if they don't figure a way out of that problem. Used vehicle prices are as stupidly high as new, and anything "value-priced", i.e. - below $25000 - will be at least 10 years old with 99 million miles on it. I'm exaggerating a little bit, but the point is that someone looking for something new/newish has no options.

The current marketing strategy of restricting production to just the highest-margin trims for each model cannot, and will not last. But they'll squeeze that golden goose as long and as hardest they can, no doubt.

10 years ago, I paid $21500 for a brand new Charger SE. Plain jane, no options, but brand new with a full warranty. That's about $27,875 in 2023 dollars, for a full size American car.
The equivalent car today sells for $33,335 after rebate, or $25,716 in 2013 dollars. That means the 2023 model is priced 17% higher than the rate of inflation (29.69%) over that decade.
Granted, they're not 100% identical vehicles, but they are both LD Chargers, with the same 3.6 engine. The 2023 has newer sheet metal, the 845RE transmission, and a few other minor trinkets. Considering the LD was refreshed in 2015, (now 9 full model years), that 17% premium seems a bit steep for what used to be a loss-leader model.
What's really crazy is the big sale a few years ago on the base 300, selling for basically the same price that I paid for my 2013 Charger.

How many of these would they sell today whether the 300 or Charger, for $28,000? None. And the 2024 models will all be $40,000 plus.

They don't need a cheap Chrysler. The "cheap" Dodge Hornet will be a dud for the "value-priced" market. They will either shop elsewhere, or like me, wait until the greed bubble bursts.
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