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1974 C-body: Mysterious intermittent total power failure

4.7K views 8 replies 7 participants last post by  peterjon1  
#1 ·
Every once in a while my '74 Chrysler "dies" electrically: no juice anywhere, not even that annoying dead-battery sound when I turn the key. Check under the hood, making sure nothing vibrated loose, nothing. Then just as suddenly it'll come back to life, as if a self-resetting circuit breaker tripped and then reset itself.

This is a very infrequent event but still troubling: what if it someday never comes back? Also, the few times it has occurred have been while the car was parked - except right before I sat down to write this message. The car conked out on an expressway - and the failure precludes use of the hazard lights! Again, no sign of disconnects under the hood, and the car inexplicably "rebooted" and I drove off as if nothing happened.

Love this car - must find and exorcise this little gremlin!
 
#4 ·
Or corrosion under the battery cable insulation at the clamp. Start by removing and cleaning battery clamps and posts, even if they look good.

Then if the problem persists, use a voltmeter to measure between the positive clamp and positive post, with headlights on. Voltage drop should not exceed about 0.3 volts, and ideally less than 0.1 volts. Repeat for the negative clamp and post. If voltage is too high, the connection between post and clamp is bad.
You can repeat this test between block and battery clamp, and starter terminal and pos battery clamp, to test the cables.
 
#5 ·
In addition to Bob's answer, The starter relay terminal and the firewall connector are common suspects. Some time during these years Chrysler changed to a shunt ammeter system. If you have the old 'true ammeter' system, It could be a loose/dirty ammeter terminal.
 
#6 ·
It could be as simple as a loose nut on one of your terminals. Make sure that the cable connections to the block, frame, and starter are also secure. Bob's suggestion about corrosion in the cables is a good one. Before you bought the car, maybe someone replaced a cable with a thinner one that isn't up to specs.

In the older Mopars, there was a place on the firewall where you could put a screwdriver between two screws to engage the starter, but you don't want to do that for very long. Someone else will have to tell you what that part is, and provide a pic, if available. I used it when setting the point gap.
 
#7 ·
If this affects battery-operated items (dome lights, headlamps, hazard flashers, etc), then I would look for a poor/loose connection in the battery/bulkhead (firewall) connector/dash ammeter areas.
High resistance creates heat, so if you find melted plastic or burnt wire insulation, then you have found the area.
 
#8 ·
Update: After my first post it happened again. This time I heard a "click" from behind the dash, left side as the power died and came back. This is a total failure so I'll have to check the firewall connector as ImperialCrown suggests.

I did notice that the battery terminal is in &^%%$ shape, so I'm going to replace it before troubleshooting further.
Thanks folks for the info thus far! Will print this off so I can have it in hand while poking around under the hood. :cool: