[Cleffy]

Stellantis new definition of cheap is under $50k.

 

[pumadog]

You can't compare European to American car prices. And I'm sure there'll be different engine options once it arrives in America.

I like it a lot.

 

[Erik Latranyi]

The FWD PHEV will have less power (195ho) than the current Compass (200 hp) despite being bigger and weighing more?

The only way to get AWD is to get one of the two BEV versions.

In other words, no direction change regarding products....they continue going BEV on everything while the market for HEVs is growing.

The MHEV is irrelevant for the North American market, just like it was for Ram (e-torque)

 

[DarkSky]

The FWD PHEV will have less power (195ho) than the current Compass (200 hp) despite being bigger and weighing more?

The only way to get AWD is to get one of the two BEV versions.

In other words, no direction change regarding products....they continue going BEV on everything while the market for HEVs is growing.

The MHEV is irrelevant for the North American market, just like it was for Ram (e-torque)

The powertrains for the US will likely be different.

 

[suzq044]

The capability of the new Compass is extended across the range, including the front-wheel-drive version, which will also be 100% capable.

FWD version 100% capable? Capable of what? Driving around the mall parking lot?

True to the Jeep brand's legacy, the Iconic Jeep features such as the unmistakable seven-slot grille, trapezoidal wheel arches, and rugged cladding were thoughtfully integrated to honor the brand's heritage while ensuring the vehicle retains its off-road prowess and signature look.

The brand's heritage is unmatched capability and ruggedness. None of which is dependent upon having a seven-slot grill, trapezoidal wheel arches or cladding.

Good lord, I need some ibuprofen after reading this nonsense.

2wd is capable. Every trim level doesn't have to be the TOP OF THE LINE BEST IN CLASS ALL THE THINGs. That's what keeps them expensive. e.e

 

[suzq044]

It got a very luke warm review on You tube, didn't stand up well against its European competitors and was killed on price, over 45,000 British pounds, estimated! Another Stellantis success story!

The only pricing I've even heard mentioned is the First Editions; which are expensive at around 40k converted. Which is too expensive for the American market.

 

[tomaz]

2wd is capable. Every trim level doesn't have to be the TOP OF THE LINE BEST IN CLASS ALL THE THINGs. That's what keeps them expensive. e.e

Right, you can be capable amongst 2wd competitors with 2wd drivetrain.

 

[suzq044]

Right, you can be capable amongst 2wd competitors with 2wd drivetrain.

Exactly; and a lot of people, they really don't care - they need starter vehicles more than anything else in the lineup. Especially here.

 

[Khaibit]

No Uconnect and and no affordable AWD or non BEV AWD.

Wow. I presume you’re referring to the EU Compass, but even still - that’s crazy. How can this product be remotely competitive in Europe with these (lack of) features at such an elevated price point?

 

[aldo90731]

I am in the midst of --attempting-- to refinance my 2023 Gladiator lease. While I wait for the dealer to get me the payoff amount, I am looking at USED Jeeps under 30,000 miles as possible trades. The level of depreciation used Jeeps show is simply shocking!

JLs, JTs and WLs that listed between $50,000 and $70,000 NEW are now in the mid 30s...before even haggling starts. Compasses are in the low 20s.

Wrangler was a perennial top-3 in resale. 4Xes are especially bad; they list in the LOW 30s. This is Land Rover-levels of depreciation.

You'd have to be out of your mind to want to buy a NEW Jeep anymore. No wonder so many Jeep customers simply choose to walk away.

 

[suzq044]

No Uconnect and and no affordable AWD or non BEV AWD.

Affordable? - Nobody has seen the official pricing yet as far as I know, and they all have the screens - are they not using uConnect in Europe?
You have to know that the packaging will be different from stem to stern for the American market. From available drivetrains, to operating systems to pricing. In Europe they're still trying for LandRover. They just have to accept that they're not Land Rover here.

 

[T_690]

Affordable? - Nobody has seen the official pricing yet as far as I know, and they all have the screens - are they not using uConnect in Europe?
You have to know that the packaging will be different from stem to stern for the American market. From available drivetrains, to operating systems to pricing. In Europe they're still trying for LandRover. They just have to accept that they're not Land Rover here.

This is PSA sourced platform and it doesn't have Uconnect. It has PSA developed system.

STLA Large will have or have Uconnect 5 and will some will have all new infotainment system which should be replace Uconnect 5 and PSA system.

 

[codypet]

I am in the midst of --attempting-- to refinance my 2023 Gladiator lease. While I wait for the dealer to get me the payoff amount, I am looking at USED Jeeps under 30,000 miles as possible trades. The level of depreciation used Jeeps show is simply shocking!

JLs, JTs and WLs that listed between $50,000 and $70,000 NEW are now in the mid 30s...before even haggling starts. Compasses are in the low 20s.

Wrangler was a perennial top-5 in resale. 4Xes are especially bad; they list in the LOW 30s. This is Land Rover-levels of depreciation.

You'd have to be out of your mind to want to buy a NEW Jeep anymore. No wonder so many Jeep customers simply choose to walk away.

I did a 0 down lease and the residual on the lease agreement is $40k. That's gonna get turned in when its up.

 

[joewho]

Now the elephant in the room , when will it be available to North America consumers? European customers can place an order today.

 

[aldo90731]

I did a 0 down lease and the residual on the lease agreement is $40k. That's gonna get turned in when its up.

Yeah. The market value of your 4Xe will likely be in the mid to high 20s when your lease ends.
Sad.

Meanwhile, Toyota can't built HEV/PHEV RAV4s fast enough.

 

[codypet]

Now the elephant in the room , when will it be available to North America consumers? European customers can place an order today.

In 3 years............🙄

 

[aldo90731]

2wd is capable.

What does that even mean...?

It can drive in the rain without stalling, it can drive over sidewalks and parking stops without getting stuck...?

Jeep's race to the bottom is never-ending.

 

[DC-93]

Right, you can be capable amongst 2wd competitors with 2wd drivetrain.

I NEVER got stuck in my 1987, 2.2, 5 speed Dodge Omni in snow and icy conditions.
It was capable.

 

[aldo90731]

Yeah. My Chrysler 300 SRT8 and Dodge Challenger 392 drove over speed bumps, potholes and in the SoCal rain. By that standard, they were extremely capable vehicles...!

 

[DC-93]

Laugh it up! At least I never owned a FIAT !! hahaha...