[Adventurer55]

A new generation is coming in the next few years anyway. Much shorter lifespan than 10 years for the previous body style.

It really feels like they’ve given up on further development of this Grand Cherokee, so it’s stuck being the middle child until the STLA Large version is released.

Then why even mess with the engine? Tried and true Pentastar. It's not perfect, but it'll be more desirable then a 4cyl. Reminds me of the difference a minivan with a turbo, noisy, verses a V6, whisper quiet.

 

[valiant67]

Then why even mess with the engine? Tried and true Pentastar. It's not perfect, but it'll be more desirable then a 4cyl. Reminds me of the difference a minivan with a turbo, noisy, verses a V6, whisper quiet.

Simple, the 4cylinder will show better results on a MPG/emissions test cycle

 

[JKU12]

Someone make me a trail rated, electrified, 3 row
Please. Call it a GC, a Wagoneer, a Liberty, a Durango. I don't care

 

[Ian]

How many Grand Cherokee refresh compared to Durango refreshes? 😳

 

[Dave Z]

Supposedly they were going to put JGC onto STLA Large with this iteration but who knows if that's still happening for 2026, or pushed back to 2038?

 

[suzq044]

How many Grand Cherokee refresh compared to Durango refreshes? 😳

I'm pretty sure they didn't originally intend for the Durango to last this long. I think when they started opting the Hellcat hoods on the GTs, that was the end of the original plan and they were just using the parts. That was in 2019. lol - here we are 6 yrs later, with the Durango being the only vehicle in the Dodge lineup with a v8 option.

it just speaks to p*ss poor planning, imo.

 

[Dave Z]

Like the two year delay between old and new Cherokees.
Like the two years Chrysler had one vehicle to sell (under three or four names).
Like dropping all cars under $28,000 and/or getting good mileage without needing hybrids.
Like putting both STLA Large plants outside national borders.
Like always pushing a midsized pickup back a few years.
Like letting Ford run almost unopposed with the Bronco... the Recon is out when?

 

[DarkSky]

Then why even mess with the engine? Tried and true Pentastar. It's not perfect, but it'll be more desirable then a 4cyl. Reminds me of the difference a minivan with a turbo, noisy, verses a V6, whisper quiet.

I’ve owned plenty of Pentastar vehicles and would’ve gone with the 2.0 turbo when I bought my last Grand Cherokee had it been available. The Pentastar is a little lacking in torque and the turbo fixes that.

 

[LouJC]

2.0 Turbo, for the GC, well I drove a couple of Wranglers with it, but unless they add some significant hp and torque it will not give the GC what it needs, the 3.0 Ecoboost V6 in the Explorer that has 400 hp and 415 ft lbs of torque. I'm getting closer to thinking about one of these...

 

[82cordoba]

I’ve owned plenty of Pentastar vehicles and would’ve gone with the 2.0 turbo when I bought my last Grand Cherokee had it been available. The Pentastar is a little lacking in torque and the turbo fixes that.

Yep. The 2.0T in the Wrangler definitely feels better than the pentastar. If they had offered the 2.0T in the Charger I would have bought one as a daily.

 

[suzq044]

..
Like letting Ford run almost unopposed with the Bronco... the Recon is out when?

I swear by the time the Recon comes out, it's gonna look old.

 

[Adventurer55]

I’ve owned plenty of Pentastar vehicles and would’ve gone with the 2.0 turbo when I bought my last Grand Cherokee had it been available. The Pentastar is a little lacking in torque and the turbo fixes that.

I don't disagree, but a 2.0 turbo four isn't the answer.

 

[DarkSky]

I don't disagree, but a 2.0 turbo four isn't the answer.

Why isn’t it the answer if it has more torque and horsepower, slightly better fuel efficiency, and isn’t an optional upgrade?

VW did this with the Atlas, GM with the Traverse and Acadia, etc.

 

[suzq044]

... Like letting Ford run almost unopposed with the Bronco... the Recon is out when?

Adding a second thought to this What about the Bronco Sport? Renegade - which 2027.. right around the time I'm sure Ford is going to be doing some refreshing and upgrading. How is Jeep going to even compete if it can't 1 - lower their pricing, 2 - allow Dodge & Chrysler a cheap FWD or heaven-forbid, a RWD variant of it. People still like Renegades, they still buy them - as new as they can because they stopped importing them here after the update everyone else got.

 

[movaldes]

Adding a second thought to this What about the Bronco Sport? Renegade - which 2027.. right around the time I'm sure Ford is going to be doing some refreshing and upgrading. How is Jeep going to even compete if it can't 1 - lower their pricing, 2 - allow Dodge & Chrysler a cheap FWD or heaven-forbid, a RWD variant of it. People still like Renegades, they still buy them - as new as they can because they stopped importing them here after the update everyone else got.

I'm in disbelief right now. I had no idea the Renegade was still available outside the US.
Wow!!! Just wow!!!
S M H

 

[Adventurer55]

Why isn’t it the answer if it has more torque and horsepower, slightly better fuel efficiency, and isn’t an optional upgrade?

VW did this with the Atlas, GM with the Traverse and Acadia, etc.

It's not a suitable engine for top line models. 4 cylinders are too buzzy. If that would've been the only engine available for my WL I would've passed and bought a new antique Durango instead.

 

[tomaz]

It's not a suitable engine for top line models. 4 cylinders are too buzzy. If that would've been the only engine available for my WL I would've passed and bought a new antique Durango instead.

Mercedes sells GLE with a 255hp inline 4 and that starts at $62k

 

[Adventurer55]

Mercedes sells GLE with a 255hp inline 4 and that starts at $62k

Yeah and it's a Daimler engine too. If Stellantis made 4cyl engines that were as quiet as Honda 4s then that would be different. They don't.

 

[suzq044]

Yeah and it's a Daimler engine too. If Stellantis made 4cyl engines that were as quiet as Honda 4s then that would be different. They don't.

or pretty much anyone else. I keep forgetting to turn off the little chevy I'm in while my husband uses the Jeep.

 

[Dave Z]

Next gen 2.0 is reportedly going into production in a few months or a year.