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A few problems with 2009 PT Cruiser Non Turbo

333 views 19 replies 5 participants last post by  06PTElectricBlue  
#1 · (Edited)
First and seeming to be most important currently is that the radiator fan is not working and causes the car to start to overheat when not moving, I’ve looked in to a lot of other people with the same problem and am going to give the fan, and its relays a look as soon as I have time. Secondly the car has engine surged a few times taking off from stop signs and one time while on the highway, I’ve only had the car a couple hundred miles so I’m not really sure how constant this is, the surge also lights up a engine light that goes away, it is the only engine light, but the problem is I can’t look at the light because the OBD II port isn’t giving any power, I’ve checked the fuse and swapped it out and that didn’t work, once I get time I’ll always be making sure the ground have a good connection as I’ve seen that in some of the research I’ve done on that too. And lastly the AC isn’t working, it doesn’t blow hot but it doesn’t get any colder than just turning the AC off.

Edit: it’s only surged 3 times total and each time only happened for a second and I just had to wait a second and I could drive off find again.
 
#4 ·
. . . .First and seeming to be most important currently is that the radiator fan is not working and causes the car to start to overheat when not moving, I’ve looked in to a lot of other people with the same problem and am going to give the fan, and its relays a look as soon as I have time. . . . .
The PCM monitors engine temperature. When necessary it instructs the TIPM to energize either the low speed or high speed fan relays mounted on the cooling fan shroud. Check fuse #15 in the TIPM that it has not failed. Check for burned or meltled wiring at the electrical connector at the fan shroud. Spin the fan motor by hand and note if any strange bearing noise occurs or does not spin freely. See attached wiring diagram.




. . . . And lastly the AC isn’t working, it doesn’t blow hot but it doesn’t get any colder than just turning the AC off. . . . .
You need to attach air conditioning manifold gauge set to monitor suction and discharge pressures with the compressor running. The system may be low on refrigerant due to a leak. See attached chart for performance criteria.

 
#5 ·
The underdash diagnostic link connector (DLC) needs to power up the tool. Make sure that you have power & ground at the DLC.
If the 'ck eng' lamp lights, then goes out, a fault codes should still be stored in memory.
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#6 ·
There is a bundle of grounds on the driver side fender behind the battery. This is a known problem area on the PT Cruisers. Remove the air box and maybe the battery and check these wires for corrosion and breakage. You may have to pull on each wire slightly in order to find one that may be broken under the insulation. Battery gases cause corrosion and sometimes you can disconnect them, clean them and the area the screw goes into the fender and rectify SOME issues. I'm not a mechanic and don't know that this will solve any of your issues, but it can't help to locate and clean these grounds anyway. I THINK 06PTElectricBlue has a photo of this area and will share it with you. Whaddya say, Rick?
 
#10 ·
G102 is out under the hood, next to the battery & is probably in trouble.
It looks like those nasty, salty Minnesota Winters corroded a lot of underhood electrical terminals. 🥶
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#13 ·
G102 is out under the hood, next to the battery & is probably in trouble.
It looks like those nasty, salty Minnesota Winters corroded a lot of underhood electrical terminals. 🥶
I cleaned up those terminals but I tested continuity and it seems the wires broke somewhere along its path. Any insight before I look into the wires a little more?
 
#14 ·
See post #10. Follow Z905 up to S121 (S=splice). Of course the wire could be broken anywhere along its length, but splices can be a weak spot.
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If you can't find the ground-break, add a ground jumper & continue the diagnosis.
 
#15 ·
The splice ended up not being the issue and there was no continuity from the splice up the the ground terminal so I ended up adding a jumper to some exposed metal and now the OBDII port works! Not sure how to look into code history to see the engine code for the engine surging but I’ve got a new battery new terminals and a working OBDII port for now!
 
#19 ·
Not all cavities of the DLC link connector will be used. Empty ones were left for future use. Your connector is probably OK.
On a 2009, the PCM/TCM share the same module on the CAN bus.