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Grand Commander sightings increase, is a Chrysler coming?

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A persistent rumor that Chrysler will be getting a crossover based on the Jeep Grand Commander is being reinforced by repeated sightings of Grand Commanders near Auburn Hills, Michigan.

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Testing of the Jeep version was presumably finished before that model launched in China, and it seems unlikely FCA would release the crossover as a Jeep. While some might want a longer Cherokee, the Grand Commander reported falls too far short of Jeep standards — below Renegade specs.

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The new Chrysler would be a mildly altered version of the Grand Commander, which was based on the Jeep Cherokee, which was a heavy rework of an Alfa Romeo platform. The roots are pretty well hidden, though; the Cherokee Trailhawk is fairly impressive off-road.

It’s possible Jeep is planning new powertrains for the Grand Commander, and that’s all we’re seeing. It’s actually likely they are planning at least one new motor, but the engineering efforts (and outlay) probably won’t end with the Grand Commander, not when Chrysler is short of product. The crossover doesn’t seem well suited to Dodge’s muscular image, unless they plan to make it with a Hemi, but it does fall right into Chrysler’s current “whatever isn’t a Dodge, Ram, or Jeep” product plan.

What will the Chrysler version look like? We’ve been told to expect a combination of Pacifica and Portal styling, so your guess is as good as ours.

Thanks to Tim Brown for contributing his spy shots.

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I know I have said this before so don't flame me too much.
I just wish the stylists would just get away from the current trend of 'me too' looking SUVs and CUVs. Everything pretty much looks the same (much like the mid size cars these days).
Yes I know there are various regulations and mileage standards that hold things back. But I have to believe that a little imagination could make a vehicle look unique and completely stand out from the others. Chrysler has been historically very good at that. It's just harder and harder these days to meet a vehicle on the road without saying "Now what was that ?" because they all look alike (except of course Charger, Challenger, 300, and Wrangler).
 
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Journey = Associated with huge discounts.Not the image they want with either the Dodge "Stelvio" or Chrysler "Grand Commander".
Aspen = A failure as a Chrysler SUV (more bad timing than bad product) with constant reminders about how bad the previous Aspen was (even though that car was decades before the Chrysler Aspen).
Voyager = Too much minivan stigma to overcome. If they had to slap a CUV name on a minivan, they certainly won't slap a minivan name on a CUV.
My prediction (if both vehicles do indeed come to pass) is that they will find names for the Dodge and Chrysler with less baggage than any of these.
 
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Journey is a great name but not in step with the current brands. It's unlikely to go on a new, more sport/muscle oriented CUV Dodge. I could see the name switch over to Chrysler, but it doesn't quite have the panache for the brand. It's a shame to let a(nother) dependable nameplate go in the trash.

Chrysler revived the "failed" Pacifica name, so I don't see why Aspen couldn't make a return. If anything, I would guess the previous Aspen didn't make enough impact in the market to cause an immediate reaction good or bad. The vast majority of people don't know Aspen was a Dodge name for a split second.;)

Voyager may still have a tinge of Plymouth minivan history attached to it. Older Baby Boomers may remember getting one when their kids were small. That name may need to lay idle for another 10 years, especially if it would go on a more premium vehicle.

I'd like to see Aspen, Atlantic, Nassau, Newport and Imperial return as vehicle names for Chrysler.:)
 
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Journey is a great name but not in step with the current brands. It's unlikely to go on a new, more sport/muscle oriented CUV Dodge. I could see the name switch over to Chrysler, but it doesn't quite have the panache for the brand. It's a shame to let a(nother) dependable nameplate go in the trash.

Chrysler revived the "failed" Pacifica name, so I don't see why Aspen couldn't make a return. If anything, I would guess the previous Aspen didn't make enough impact in the market to cause an immediate reaction good or bad. The vast majority of people don't know Aspen was a Dodge name for a split second.;)

Voyager may still have a tinge of Plymouth minivan history attached to it. Older Baby Boomers may remember getting one when their kids were small. That name may need to lay idle for another 10 years, especially if it would go on a more premium vehicle.

I'd like to see Aspen, Atlantic, Nassau, Newport and Imperial return as vehicle names for Chrysler.:)
The I don't know of any negative stigma of the Voyager name. I can see auto magazines and blogs jumping onto the Voyager like did with the Cherokee. Boomers I know remember them fondly of the cars they carted their kids around in. My Millennial friends don't remember the name. Most remember those cars as a Dodge Caravan for some reason (Even if it was a Voyager they were driven around in. Memory is a crazy thing isn't it?) Journey and Voyage both evoke thoughts of taking a trip. You could resurrect Concorde just as easily IMO. I don't know of any stigma with that name either. I hope they don't mess up and call the car Sea Breeze or something that accidentally evokes bad memory.
 
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In a perfect world, the ultimate luxury vehicle would swaddle its occupants in rich, corinthian leather.:D
The I don't know of any negative stigma of the Voyager name. I can see auto magazines and blogs jumping onto the Voyager like did with the Cherokee. Boomers I know remember them fondly of the cars they carted their kids around in. My Millennial friends don't remember the name. Most remember those cars as a Dodge Caravan for some reason (Even if it was a Voyager they were driven around in. Memory is a crazy thing isn't it?) Journey and Voyage both evoke thoughts of taking a trip. You could resurrect Concorde just as easily IMO. I don't know of any stigma with that name either. I hope they don't mess up and call the car Sea Breeze or something that accidentally evokes bad memory.
Concorde is a good name too, I forgot that one.

For Voyager, while I was growing up, Plymouth meant Superbirds or middle ground, really good at nothing badge engineered minivans and cars. The Voyager is what you got if you didn't want a Caravan like everyone else but were too poor to get a Town & Country.:D I just think that memory would be tough to get around by Baby Boomers and Gen Xers. Maybe not.:)
 
#28 ·
Make it a competitive vehicle with value for the money and it’ll take care of itself. The name at this point doesn’t matter much. People will perceive that name as good or bad based on their perception of the vehicle itself...not with what the name may or may not have been attached to previously. Make a winner, and it’ll be perceived as such.
 
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lol OK hear me out, what if they Next two Chrysler Crossovers are called "Town" and "Country" and advertised together as "Town & Country"?? one would be a lower riding urban Crossover for 7 passengers, and other will be a slightly higher riding 5 passenger version with extra cargo.? cause you know T&C were mostly attached to some sort of MPV style car (as a model by itself, not Trim)
 
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Excellent sightlines and visibility was a big selling point to us when we bought our now departed Forester. Chrysler could do very well in creating an airy feeling greenhouse on top of a bold but not wild body. It may sound weird, but I'd look at sedans of the 1930's and 40's for inspiration. I don't mean go retro, but the long body lines with flowing fenders make for such a classy look.
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I have to be careful or I'll get sucked into classic car porn.:)