What is coming in 2018 would not be coming if this was true.

It's merely click bait.

Mike

 

Sounds like a guy that wants to write a blog story.

 

Meh. NO. Give me a bit and I will lay out the reasons why I say this....

 

Careful sir.

Mike

 

Damn it, these websites are annoying me. I might take them off my favorites. I knew I could count on allpar, always.

 

nah...

 

Spread the rumor and pump up demand

 

Yeah, gets attention to the authors website... That's about it. It's easy to see that the author is making a big assumption based on very little.

There is plenty of public and non-public info from Chrysler that completely refutes this story.

Mike

 

I haven't seen/heard of any info on the next gen hemi models, still a long ways out.

 

Which is another reason why an assumption like the one in the article is very short sighted.

Mike

 

all I can say is ... with what is possible ...... you won't need the hemi's ..... except for trucks ... so ... they will be around in certain vehicles ....

 

So true

Mike

 

I dont recall how long its been but as of right know 2015 Grand Cherokee any trim in 4x2 you can not get the Hemi, even if its a sold order. Not sure if its just because of restrictions on the motor or not. 2016 has not opened up yet to tell if it continues the same way.
Its not even a searchable option if you wanted to try and find one.

 

The article says Hemis , not V8's. There could be a return to the MAG. V8

 

Uh. no.

Don't get me wrong, love the Magnum, but the complete architecture is too outdated to be used in anything currently in production.

Power output, No
Emissions compliance ( specifically combustion chamber shaping ) no
Longevity, no

etc etc...

 

I don't see any radical changes away from the Hemi in cars till at least 2021, or whenever the new generation of Lx cars drop.

At this point, in trucks, they will still be around for a long time to come.

There are certain projects and investments being made that wouldn't be being made if they planned on shitcanning the motor in the near term...

 

Well said! Wait, did you say anything?

Mike

 

The Hemi's days are numbered in cars. Unless they can magically make the cars get 40 mpg. Now when that is is another thing

 

I do not think they are numbered, there is still life for the Hemi for many years to come.

Mike

 

Actually, Ive heard the Hemi IS going away. McDonalds is discontinuing the big mac, AC/DC is moving away from hard rock and taking a new adult contemporary sound, and Apple is getting rid of the iPhone also.

 

Damn, LOL!

Mike

 

That's interesting. Must be true coming from that source.

 

i could see a twin turbo pentastar replacing the 5.7l hemi in cars/suvs.

 

The sad part is, I doubt there would be much improvement in fuel consumption.

 

I wonder what SuperDuckie see in his crystal ball? I thought of weird theories but I think it's way too weird to post it on the forum.

 

Darned if I can figure it out, but I feel that a whole boat load of information has just been thrown around in this thread....

 

 

Yes the Hemis are going away in 2019...to make room for the 2020 Hemis.

 

Dodge is needed for Alfa's economics of scale. While the Alfa models will use different motors, the Hemi is what makes the larger Dodge into something that's not a direct competitor. Strictly an opinion.

 

Look, let's get real...

If the Hemi was going to be killed off in 2019, myself and others would not be hinting at future Hellcat upgrades.

Period, end of discussion.

Mike

 

FCA working hard on twin turbos. ..

 

This is true. Too bad the Alfa engine is not Pentastar based, IIRC.

Mike

 

I honestly could see some sort of common base V8 in the future, sort of like they have done with the P-Star.

That way it could serve in Jeep, Dodge, Ram, Maser, and Alfa ( if needed ) vehicles, and remain "unique" to each marque as needed. Ferrari will remain separate as a needed halo, and those motors are too finicky for long term longevity that the other brands would require.

 

The assumption regarding Ferrari remaining separate in that sense, might not be 100% on target. Ferrari already is getting - and increasingly will be even more - closely aligned with Maserati (and Alfa for theit V6). Not because the engines will be that similar (block architecture aside), but crucially because that allows a small producer like Ferrari to share suppliers with two brands that can use those same producers but buy in larger amounts. The actual components don't even need to be the same; for example the Maserati V8 and the Ferrari V8 on the f154 block use entirely different turbos, but they are both from the same supplier.

 

Per Ralph (Re: SRT vehicles):

...Nonetheless, he conceded the Hemi is likely to be replaced by the end of the decade and that its replacement may not be a naturally aspirated V8.

“I think it’s wide open after that. After the era of Hemi is over, there are all kinds of ways SRT is going to make power. We are going to look at all kinds of things, we would be foolish not to.”

"He defended SRT’s timing, considering Mercedes-Benz’s AMG, BMW’s M division and many other performance brands have all transitioned from naturally aspirated V8s to turbocharged powerplants."

 

Only time will tell...

Mike

 

Bring on the rebirth of the 318 V8 with twin turbos!

 

Ain't gonna happen.

Mike

 

My thoughts. First of all I could see an all new V8 or tubro six replacing the hemi in cars after 2020. Like it or not it is the way of the future. The cars will get smaller and lighter and so will the engines. I would guess it will live on longer in suvs or at least pick ups.

Second of all I have a 2013 2.0 ecoboost as a daily driver right now. And yes the mileage is all over the place. From 19 to 36 occurring in city driving constantly flooring it to freeway driving cruising at 55 for an hour straight barely varying my speed. But you know what? I have a 2011 Ford vehicle with the 3.0 v6 and I really wish the 2.0 eco was available that year. Even though the HP rating is similar the 2.0 is so much more responsive, quicker, flatter tourque curve, more torque and yes over all gets about 5 mpg better in a heavier vehicle.

Before you bash me as a ford fan boy I have owned many mopars and Fords and even a Chevy once and loved them all. I like Detroit iron from any of the big three.

Finally all that being said I recently sold my older mustang GT and miss the V8 already. I am bouncing between mustang or challenger for future purchase. (Yes very different vehicles, not in this thread please.) I might have to grab a challenger in the next two three years if they are in fact replacing hemi with a turbo six.

 

My thoughts. First of all I could see an all new V8 or tubro six replacing the hemi in cars after 2020. Like it or not it is the way of the future. The cars will get smaller and lighter and so will the engines. I would guess it will live on longer in suvs or at least pick ups.

Second of all I have a 2013 2.0 ecoboost as a daily driver right now. And yes the mileage is all over the place. From 19 to 36 occurring in city driving constantly flooring it to freeway driving cruising at 55 for an hour straight barely varying my speed. But you know what? I have a 2011 Ford vehicle with the 3.0 v6 and I really wish the 2.0 eco was available that year. Even though the HP rating is similar the 2.0 is so much more responsive, quicker, flatter tourque curve, more torque and yes over all gets about 5 mpg better in a heavier vehicle.

Before you bash me as a ford fan boy I have owned many mopars and Fords and even a Chevy once and loved them all. I like Detroit iron from any of the big three.

Finally all that being said I recently sold my older mustang GT and miss the V8 already. I am bouncing between mustang or challenger for future purchase. (Yes very different vehicles, not in this thread please.) I might have to grab a challenger in the next two three years if they are in fact replacing hemi with a turbo six.

I like the EcoBoost engines, very responsive. Gas mileage is not the greatest. I have driven 3.5L EB in trucks and they suck gas. That being said, Ford are pretty far from their EPA ratings. I had a Taurus X, 3.5L FWD and I constantly got 6 mpg less than it's rating. My Hemi Durango gets pretty much the EPA rating which is close to what my Taurus X got.

The advantage of the Ecoboost is the low end torque, not the fuel economy. It's reliability, especially the 3.5 in the pick ups is far from being flawless.