[Adventurer55]

Chrysler? Whatever gave you the impression that Chrysler had anything to do with this vehicle? It was designed, specced, and built, by NON Chrysler employees of Stellantis, ie: India, Poland, etc..
Let's just stop pretending that Jeep is still an 'American' brand. The only 'American' part is when it gets off the ship!

Jesus, I'm just using that so I don't have to spell out the whole thing. So you're telling me that there is absolutely nothing on this vehicle made by anyone that has anything to do with the remnants of any form of the former Chrysler here? And please provide proof of it.

 

[johnb300m]

Jesus, I'm just using that so I don't have to spell out the whole thing. So you're telling me that there is absolutely nothing on this vehicle made by anyone that has anything to do with the remnants of any form of the former Chrysler here? And please provide proof of it.

My assumption here, is that the Cherokee was probably project managed in Auburn Hills, with also Jeep chief engineering.
But what happens in these layouts, typically, is that the chief engineer will have multiple tiers or systems of engineering pools feeding up. Such as COE's from Brazil, Poland, India, etc. Those designs and drawings would then probably come to a senior (heavily truncated) team of engineers to manage and check the parts/drawings*, while the actual work is done overseas.
That's how my past aerospace company would do it.
I would own and check over and check in parts and drawings, review data, from COE's in Puerto Rico and Spain.

*However, considering how things have gone, and quality has tanked, I wouldn't be surprised if no senior people are reviewing and checking part designs/assemblies before they go off to the lowest cost supplier.

 

[jimboy]

Jesus, I'm just using that so I don't have to spell out the whole thing. So you're telling me that there is absolutely nothing on this vehicle made by anyone that has anything to do with the remnants of any form of the former Chrysler here? And please provide proof of it.

Authorised in Europe, designed in India, built in Poland? How about YOU show me the AMERICAN content in this vehicle

 

[Adventurer55]

Authorised in Europe, designed in India, built in Poland? How about YOU show me the AMERICAN content in this vehicle

I was under the impression that the STLA Large was a NA product only. It's built at Toulca assembly in Mexico, not Poland. The engine is made in Michigan.

 

[74Powerwagon]

That's what surprised me. They raised shipping by $400, I guess to one-up Jeep slightly.
Cherokee is a traditional hybrid, albeit one using a motor-transmission system, not a plugin. No electric mode, which makes it cheaper and lighter.
Odd that GM would follow Jeep into the "nickel and dime" strategy.

Most Chevys are still on 2024-or-2025 on the web site. Equinox is showing up for 2026.
Equinox colors are:
White
Green
Gray
Black
Blue
Red ($495)

None of these are $595 (though iridescent peral tricoat on Blazer is $995). They also have white roof and black roof, each $495. Note this is for LT AWD. $32,495 after offers and shipping.

I don't show $2,000 for destination. I show $1795.

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When I look at GMC... Terrain, let's say, its shown for 2026. That's interesting, NOW we have $495 for any color but white. ($645 for red.) But... this is GMC version of Chevy.
Destination is still $1,795. So GM is still below Jeep, I don't see support for “over $2,000”?

I was going by the Colorado and Canyon trucks 2026 is shipping is $2096

Seen a couple more of the commercials and looking at the website and the wife says it looks like a station wagon
We were over at a park the other day, a Grand Wagonner was there, she said it does not have any body lines, just a white slap

remember when the Chargers came out, slap sided, then 6 months later they put the endentation/coves on the side and sold a lot quicker...

 

[74Powerwagon]

Chrysler? Whatever gave you the impression that Chrysler had anything to do with this vehicle? It was designed, specced, and built, by NON Chrysler employees of Stellantis, ie: India, Poland, etc..
Let's just stop pretending that Jeep is still an 'American' brand. The only 'American' part is when it gets off the ship!

and that is the problem. GM did this, remember that ugly Malibu with the rear sliding seat, then later with the Impala, let alone their trucks. When the goverment loaned GM money they brought the design team back into the US. They then started designing vehicle's that people in the US liked.

Jeep needs a vehicle to compete with the Toyota 4-Runner, (they cannot make the 2025's fast enough), not this low slung Cherokee that looks like a station wagon.

 

[Adventurer55]

and that is the problem. GM did this, remember that ugly Malibu with the rear sliding seat, then later with the Impala, let alone their trucks. When the goverment loaded GM money they brought the design team back into the US. They then started designing vehicle's that people in the US liked.

Jeep needs a vehicle to compete with the Toyota 4-Runner, (they cannot make the 2025's fast enough), not this low slung Cherokee that looks like a station wagon.

They aren't going to build a 4 runner competitor. Last time they did that it was 1999 and by 2004 auto magazines were telling Jeep they had to abandon live axles for more on road comfort and road manners. The closest their going to come is a Wrangler.

 

[74Powerwagon]

They aren't going to build a 4 runner competitor. Last time they did that it was 1999 and by 2004 auto magazines were telling Jeep they had to abandon live axles for more on road comfort and road manners. The closest their going to come is a Wrangler.

What did they have in 99 to compete against the 4-runner? Maybe 84 thru 98 cherokee but nothing else.
in 99 all they had was the Cherokee, Grand Cherokee and the Wrangler. Instead of updating the Cherokee, in 2002 they downgraded it to a CUV, aka Liberty that not even it's mother would love.

I am sure Toyota was told that too, and look at them. Go ride in a new 4-runner with the solid axle's. Better then riding in a Grand Cherokee Limited with them 21 inch low profile tires....

Seems Toyota builds what people want, where as other say, we will build it and they will buy it. and fail

 

[Adventurer55]

What did they have in 99 to compete against the 4-runner? Maybe 84 thru 98 cherokee but nothing else.
in 99 all they had was the Cherokee, Grand Cherokee and the Wrangler. Instead of updating the Cherokee, in 2002 they downgraded it to a CUV, aka Liberty that not even it's mother would love.

I am sure Toyota was told that too, and look at them. Go ride in a new 4-runner with the solid axle's. Better then riding in a Grand Cherokee Limited with them 21 inch low profile tires....

Seems Toyota builds what people want, where as other say, we will build it and they will buy it. and fail

Is that why the new Sequoia finished dead last in the recent SUV tests? Even below Nissan.

 

[74Powerwagon]

Is that why the new Sequoia finished dead last in the recent SUV tests? Even below Nissan.

you did not answer my question asking what Jeep was built between 1999 and 2004 that you said was to compete against the 4-runner.

and here is another since you did not give specifics
What did the Sequoia finished dead last in?
hill climbing, acceleration, stopping, ground clearance, Front and rear clearance. break over?
I do not think it was any of them. Oh and sells, not even close.
If it was car and driver it was probably ride, cause they like cushy, wallowing rides. They always ding the GC due to it does not wallow around corners. They also do not like trucks, period, but they hold their nose when they test them.

 

[Dave Z]

I was going by the Colorado and Canyon trucks 2026 is shipping is $2096

Ah. I was going by equivalent vehicles. I wonder why the shipping is higher on the midsize pickups? I guess they can't fit as many onto the carriers?

Turns out the article was right after all.

 

[Vendetta09]

Do we know if the 2026 Jeep Cherokee will offer a heads up display?

 

[Adventurer55]

It pains me to say this, but there's a pretty comprehensive write up on another Mopar forum about the Cherokee. It's fairly informative.

 

[johnb300m]

not this low slung Cherokee that looks like a station wagon.

That just reads super funny to me when I don't think the new Cherokee looks any more or less like a "wagon" than past Jeeps.

The Jeep Jeepster

The Jeep Commando

And of course, the Wagoneer:

 

[Dave Z]

It pains me to say this, but there's a pretty comprehensive write up on another Mopar forum about the Cherokee. It's fairly informative.

The one on motales isn't, you say?

 

[Adventurer55]

The one on motales isn't, you say?

Well, let's just say that write-up goes into way more detail.

 

[Dave Z]

Well, let's just say that write-up goes into way more detail.

Interesting. Well, I'll admit I didn't have all the detail I wanted. It helps to get invited to the pressers.
We don't have the following we need for that to happen.

 

[Lone Bone]

Do we know if the 2026 Jeep Cherokee will offer a heads up display?

It is not.

 

[Adventurer55]

Interesting. Well, I'll admit I didn't have all the detail I wanted. It helps to get invited to the pressers.
We don't have the following we need for that to happen.

No we don't, but I'm quite sure we could increase our following, but I'd prefer to speak to you privately about that.

 

[Matthew]

After doing a online build of the Cherokee compared to competion I went from excited to disappoint.

I was excited when I heard the starting price and hybrid (I really want better mpg then my 19 when it's time to replace) and starting at $35 destination was exciting. The standard content was great.

My only must haves where sunroof, upgraded stereo, leather seats, heated/vented seats. First strike no real leather only fake, then the only way to get vented seats is to start on the overland trim and add an expensive option package to get them. (Dose come standard with sunroof and sound system) But it brings to price to 49k.

I've owned Mopar vehicles for 22 years since I was 16, but short of drastic price reduction my Jeep will probably be my last.

I can buy a top trim hybrid Hyundai Tucson with all the same options as overland including vented seats that are actually leather too, for $42k $7k less. (Heck same with a hybrid Honda CRV) There is no way I can justify a $7k premium for the Jeep Cherokee.

I think this is going to rot on the lots the way they require you to climb such high trims and option packages to get stuff that's standard on most of the competion at lower trims and lower prices.

Or they are going to have to slap massive incentives on the hood ala Wagoner S, and Hornet.