[ImperialCrown]

I was surprised to see that Amsoil now meets MS-6395. It didn't used to.
Mobil1 now has approval also.

Pennzoil synthetic & Mopar filters for my baby.
In case of supply chain issues:

 

[morepower]

Where can I get a copy of this TSE sheet?

Where can I get a copy of this TSE sheet?

Does anyone have the TSB on the 3.6 Leaking Oil Housing Recall? So is the leak caused by wear & tear of changing oil or is there a problem with the housing?

 

[Adventurer55]

I was surprised to see that Amsoil now meets MS-6395. It didn't used to.
Mobil1 now has approval also.

Pennzoil synthetic & Mopar filters for my baby.
In case of supply chain issues:
View attachment 89395

I got my Pennzoil from my work. We sell 0w20 made from natural gas. I didn't realize that the dealer took care of that once a year for three years. It won't go to waste.

 

[ImperialCrown]

Does anyone have the TSB on the 3.6 Leaking Oil Housing Recall? So is the leak caused by wear & tear of changing oil or is there a problem with the housing?

I don't think that it was ever a 'recall' or a 'TSB'. Any engine oil or coolant leak has to be taken on a case-by-case basis. There is no 'blanket' leak cause.
As for the plastic oil filter housing, I asked some Chrysler techs if they thought the oil leak was because of over-tightening the filter cap. They didn't think so.
They blamed a vendor that had quality issues. Apparently there were a couple of different vendors for this assembly.
I think that most of the leaks were from the special o-rings. Some of the leaks were from cracked or separating housings. Many of these housings may still have been good.

In order to 'play it safe' and not have to do the job a 2nd time, the 'tribal' procedure became to replace the housing on ALL of them.
This created a backorder situation. Customers had to drive a leaking car until the backorder lifted and the part came in. Not a good look.
The factory stepped in and maybe paid a little more warranty time to the techs to do the o-rings first and leak check it. If it still leaked, the car got more diagnosis.

 

[Nate_378]

Ive got right at 200,000 on my 3.6 in my Charger. Has never ticked once. Just recently did my second tune up on it and it runs like a top. Maybe 2014 was a good year for them. So far the only mechanical issue ive had was i had to replace the thermostat, but other than that its been a runner.

 

[ImperialCrown]

Agree. For the majority of owners, this has been & continues to be a world-class, benchmark engine.

 

[Dave Z]

I'm lucky. 100,000 miles on the ’13 and not a trace of problems. That said, I'm going out to check the oil now

 

[mentalicca]

I'm lucky. 100,000 miles on the ’13 and not a trace of problems. That said, I'm going out to check the oil now

Over 100k on our 13 charger awd too. The 3.6 has been a trooper. Gotta give the rotors and tierods a check though. But it has been a relatively maintenance free vehicle for the nearly 10 years of ownership we have had it.

 

[hmk123]

Meanwhile at Ford…

If you add their issues with the DCT it amazes me it hasn’t had a bigger impact on their reputation.

Or are all these outliners?

 

[AceHanlon]

Meanwhile at Ford…

If you add their issues with the DCT it amazes me it hasn’t had a bigger impact on their reputation.

Or are all these outliners?

First problem was them buying a Ford C-max in the first place

 

[68RT]

First problem was them buying a Ford C-max in the first place

In today's level of engineering and assembly and with all the recall cost incentives, a car should be reliable except for assembly issues or an occasional part quality issue. (Electronics somewhat exempted as it is so fast changing)

 

[Karl Nielsen]

So, why aren't 21 and 22 models included? What did they change?

My 2021 has this problem and I can't get any help from Jeep. They know they have a problem and keep pumping them out. All I have to say is look at the foreign entity that is partners with Chrysler that says it all. My family was greatly affected by their actions in the late 70's. Nothing has changed with them/

 

[Karl Nielsen]

Hearing a Ticking Noise? FCA Hit with Class Action Over Alleged 3.6L Pentastar V6 Engine Problems

A class action alleges the 3.6L Pentastar V6 engine found in certain 2014-2020 Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep and RAM vehicles suffers from a valve train defect.

www.classaction.org

Well I've had 4 of the P-star engines, from 2012 to 2020, in 4 different vehicles (Dodge and Jeep brands). I've run them to redline having fun, used them for commuting, towed at maximum capacity with them (over 7,000 lbs in the case of the Gladiator), and used them on long trips. I've never had one single issue with any of them. Ever.

OK well that's not entirely true, the 2012 was the first year of the P-star in the Jeep Wrangler and they had early issues with casting sand not being washed out thoroughly at the factory, and the sand would clog the heater core. But they got that fixed and they've all been amazing engines since.

So I'm calling B.S. on this being a "known problem" with the engines. Sure, when you're making literally millions of copies you're going to have a few issues. Most of the valvetrain issues are due to employee error on the line. I've seen videos of the people who assemble the valvetrain. It's not robotic. Mistakes occasionally happen.

I have been a Jeep owner for many years and had many different Jeeps. My 2021 Jeep Gladiator is great less the 3.6 Pentistar nightmare. at 110,00 miles I got the tick. It's like getting COVID. No help no good information. Jeep refuses to help me with a 3-year-old Jeep that should have many more miles on the engine. I am on my witts end with this jeep and I know I will never repurchase a new one until the foreign entity is gone and we are building good vehicles again that will last. Jeep knows it has a problem and is ignoring it hoping people will go away. Well, I am going to be the thorn that won't come out. I paid good money for a product and that product has a defect. We see lots of quality issues in the news these days and I am not going to fall by the wayside to be ignored. We must expect more from manufacturers who build our products and hold them accountable for their bad decision-making. This issue is not only with previous years. My Jeep is affected and needs to be in the class as well as others who are having issues with the poorly made 3.6L engine.

 

[HotCarNut]

I have been a Jeep owner for many years and had many different Jeeps. My 2021 Jeep Gladiator is great less the 3.6 Pentistar nightmare. at 110,00 miles I got the tick. It's like getting COVID. No help no good information. Jeep refuses to help me with a 3-year-old Jeep that should have many more miles on the engine. I am on my witts end with this jeep and I know I will never repurchase a new one until the foreign entity is gone and we are building good vehicles again that will last. Jeep knows it has a problem and is ignoring it hoping people will go away. Well, I am going to be the thorn that won't come out. I paid good money for a product and that product has a defect. We see lots of quality issues in the news these days and I am not going to fall by the wayside to be ignored. We must expect more from manufacturers who build our products and hold them accountable for their bad decision-making. This issue is not only with previous years. My Jeep is affected and needs to be in the class as well as others who are having issues with the poorly made 3.6L engine.

Do you have 11,000 miles or 110,000 miles on it? What kind of oil are you using? A lot of times it’s down to the dealer and its service department to correctly diagnose the issue and work with Jeep. Unfortunately, the dealer body as a whole sucks. Genuinely, good dealers are rare.
As for foreign ownership, good luck. CDJR has been foreign owned between Daimler, Fiat, and now STLA for better than 20 of the last 25 years. People forget, the Daimler Chrysler fiasco was announced in 1998.

 

[Adventurer55]

I have been a Jeep owner for many years and had many different Jeeps. My 2021 Jeep Gladiator is great less the 3.6 Pentistar nightmare. at 110,00 miles I got the tick. It's like getting COVID. No help no good information. Jeep refuses to help me with a 3-year-old Jeep that should have many more miles on the engine. I am on my witts end with this jeep and I know I will never repurchase a new one until the foreign entity is gone and we are building good vehicles again that will last. Jeep knows it has a problem and is ignoring it hoping people will go away. Well, I am going to be the thorn that won't come out. I paid good money for a product and that product has a defect. We see lots of quality issues in the news these days and I am not going to fall by the wayside to be ignored. We must expect more from manufacturers who build our products and hold them accountable for their bad decision-making. This issue is not only with previous years. My Jeep is affected and needs to be in the class as well as others who are having issues with the poorly made 3.6L engine.

If yours has 110k then you're out of luck.

 

[voiceofstl]

2012 Grand Cherokee. Blue Smoke. Got rid of it at end of lease (Known recall). 2017 Durango. Had lifters replaced at 4000 miles!!!!! 2020 Grand Cherokee, Wife's truck. Im starting to hear that tick on start up at 12k Miles. There is definatly something going on....

My 2016 Caravan with 48,000 miles got the ticking noise.