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STLA claims EV breakthrough in “IBIS”

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I think once El Tariffo is out of office, you will see GM, Ford, or the NA arm of Stella embrace a Chinese EV manufacturer and the first to do so will deliver a knock out punch to the other US entities. A Chrysler lineup with BYD EV tech and affordability would eat Tesla's lunch...they already are in China and Europe.
They have already done this in Europe with... you know the name, I've forgotten it.

...and in Mexico. At latest count, BYD's market share in Mexico is estimated to be around 7%, and growing fast. Seven percent is the equivalent of Nissan's market share in the US. BYD achieved this in less than one year, and in a market with an incipient EV charging infrastructure.

Now that El Tariffo has summarily ended negotiations with Canada without a newest-newer-new trade deal, I wouldn't be surprised if Canada revisits its stance towards Chinese automakers.
Canada is talking with the EU about harmonizing safety rules so that they can import and export cars to each other. I don't think they're going to go straight to China, but certainly the barriers are not as high as they used to be. I think Carney is trying to not burn bridges permanently until November 2026.
 
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They have already done this in Europe with... you know the name, I've forgotten it.



Canada is talking with the EU about harmonizing safety rules so that they can import and export cars to each other. I don't think they're going to go straight to China, but certainly the barriers are not as high as they used to be. I think Carney is trying to not burn bridges permanently until November 2026.
I agree that Carney and Doug Ford are being careful not to alienate GM-Ford-Chrysler; they remain large employers in Ontario.

Having said that, the Chinese are already in Europe and, from what I hear, doing very well. So harmonizing Canada-EU rules could give Chinese automakers a backdoor into Canada.
 
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e3008 or E-3008 is the Peugeot compact crossover name. 308 for sedan, 3008 for crossover, following their naming convention of adding a 0 for crossovers.

It could conceivably go to market pretty quickly - 2028-2030ish.

Solid state's still more important, IMHO, and again, if they could explain why this saves space (because wouldn't the battery have to be larger?) and 88 lb (because wouldn't they still need the same parts, even if they moved them into the battery?), it would help. How could it help efficiency? 88 lb is a lot but it's not 10%-gain territory. I'd think it was something in the battery design itself but they say it works across chemistries. It's a puzzler, and to solve it I'd probably have to go through the many patents they've filed on it.
 
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I think they listed the energy efficiency twice. It should end up as greater range or in less power put into the battery. You can judge for yourself how likely this figure is. I have my doubts. 40 kg is indeed a major reduction in weight, in an industry that will strip an ounce if it can.

I'm afraid their writing style - MEET THE BIGGEST INVENTION EVER FROM THE WORLD'S SMARTEST PEOPLE!!!! HERE ARE SOME BIG WORDS WE WILL USE TO HIDE WHAT IT IS!!!! - annoys me to the point that I start to get cynical halfway through and that detracts from the actual gains they might have. It would help if they explained anywhere how moving the inverter and charger into the battery structure actually does any of the things they claim it does.
 
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Obviously this is not a slight against you Dave. This is the sort of news in the EV world I like to read about. However, with this being STLA we are talking about, I expect this to be ready in "3 years (TM)".

But, to actually speak to this further, 40kg (88lbs) is a major reduction. This is something that absolutely should have also been in the 2026 demo Charger Daytona "fleet" they are building alongside Factorial (which I have my doubts is still going to happen). Retaining the 100kwh battery "size" should mean the ability to reduce the weight of the car by 400lbs or so taking both technologies into account. And every bit is going to help.

I am curious about this 10% greater energy efficiency. Is this measured in kwh/100km, or in total miles driven? Either way, if true, yet another welcome change.

Definitely sad we won't see these emerging technologies stateside before the next decade.
 
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Obviously this is not a slight against you Dave. This is the sort of news in the EV world I like to read about. However, with this being STLA we are talking about, I expect this to be ready in "3 years (TM)".

But, to actually speak to this further, 40kg (88lbs) is a major reduction. This is something that absolutely should have also been in the 2026 demo Charger Daytona "fleet" they are building alongside Factorial (which I have my doubts is still going to happen). Retaining the 100kwh battery "size" should mean the ability to reduce the weight of the car by 400lbs or so taking both technologies into account. And every bit is going to help.

I am curious about this 10% greater energy efficiency. Is this measured in kwh/100km, or in total miles driven? Either way, if true, yet another welcome change.

Definitely sad we won't see these emerging technologies stateside before the next decade.
I think once El Tariffo is out of office, you will see GM, Ford, or the NA arm of Stella embrace a Chinese EV manufacturer and the first to do so will deliver a knock out punch to the other US entities. A Chrysler lineup with BYD EV tech and affordability would eat Tesla's lunch...they already are in China and Europe.