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Weight of electric vehicles could cause 'catastrophic' damage and 'lead to car parks collapsing': Engineers warn Britain's parking facilities were not

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From the article:

Multi-storey and underground car parks could collapse under the weight of electric vehicles, engineers have warned.

Electric cars, which are roughly twice as heavy as standard models, could cause ‘catastrophic’ damage, according to the British Parking Association (BPA), which wants local authorities to conduct urgent structural surveys.

Most of the nation’s 6,000 multi-storey and underground facilities were built according to guidance based on the weight of popular cars of 1976, including the Mk 3 Ford Cortina.

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Weight of electric vehicles could cause 'catastrophic' damage and 'lead to car parks collapsing' | Daily Mail Online
 
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We had a portion of our downtown parking garage collapse. I wouldn't consider the structure that old. No fatalities...yet.
Some local bridges have been closed also.
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The road salt & snow melt seeps into the cracks & attacks the reinforcing steel. Salt water is also acidic or basic depending on what it is mixed with. It will eventually dissolve concrete or mortar (calcium/lime).
We may see more of this as the infrastructure ages.

European cars have generally been lighter than our American cars. Li-ion batteries are considerably lighter than the lead-acid batteries of yore. Fuel cells are even lighter.
The technology is getting better in increments. No battery break-through yet. I am interested in the recent nuclear fusion advancements, although it may be nothing we will see soon.
 
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All true. And this will likely be an expensive transition exactly because the garages were designed for lighter vehicles. They may end up having to declare half the spaces "off limits" in many parking garages. Tells me that local codes should be updated for new construction since I suspect new projects are being built without BEVs in mind. All that said, I don't recall people saying we should restrict sales of big SUVs and pickups because parking spaces were designed for smaller, lighter sedans...
 
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This. I was sitting here scratching my head for a second because I live in a state with relatively new infrastructure with no salt and probably most important, the need to overdesign for wind loads. I was genuinely thinking that the designs shouldn't need to be beefed up that much, but when you're dealing with structural issues to the point where trucks can't drive on expressways anymore, then yea. I can see this being an issue.
 
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Could it happen. Yes
Will it. Not likely.
Even if you overloaded it completely civil projects are made over recommended capacity.
unless it was catastrophic failure. It would be noticeable as it began to have issues

same thing For roads. They will wear quicker as cars are heavier and heavier
 
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Anyone designing a parking garage/space only for small sedans would be an idiot. You always design based upon expected usage. Trucks are the #1-#3 sellers.

However, 10 years ago nobody expected this rapid push toward 5 ton EVs. So not designing for that back then makes sense.
 
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Anyone designing a parking garage/space only for small sedans would be an idiot. You always design based upon expected usage. Trucks are the #1-#3 sellers.

However, 10 years ago nobody expected this rapid push toward 5 ton EVs. So not designing for that back then makes sense.
Article is about weight issues in the UK. Trucks would not be #1 & #3 there.
 
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I drive under this every day to work. Built in 1982, and when I noticed the crack and complained to the state in 2018, they replied that it was there since built, was stable, that they have been measuring it for 10 years.
This year, it went on the list for bridge replacement; after I could see the crack widening much more than what this 2019 Google Maps photo shows.

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Believe it or not, structural deficiency can take many forms. This bridge needed replacement 2 years ago because it failing structurally.

I just watched a video on the BQE and its issues. I think there's genuine concern to be had about overloaded trucks and the possibility of heavy EV's. If everything was maintained like they day it was built, no problem, but we all know that doesn't happen.