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Must have been a quickie, only a year or so between the 09 illustration and production of the actual car. I do remember Sergio ordering some upgrading of some materials but I believe that was all interior related.
You may be right. But so may my source.

We will probably never know the truth.
 

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Sorry, this is unrelated to the 2019 300 but I’ll give it a shot. I’ve been looking for an old Motor Trend drawing of what they thought the new Chrysler sedan would look like. It was before the 300C came out. I believe it was a green drawing and it had a low roof. They either called it the 300N or Concorde. Anyone have that issue? I don’t anymore.
 

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Sorry, this is unrelated to the 2019 300 but I’ll give it a shot. I’ve been looking for an old Motor Trend drawing of what they thought the new Chrysler sedan would look like. It was before the 300C came out. I believe it was a green drawing and it had a low roof. They either called it the 300N or Concorde. Anyone have that issue? I don’t anymore.
There was the gorgeous green 300C "concept" which was a dead ringer for the actual production car (with tweaks here and there), but I don't recall seeing it as a render first... I did find this picture, however:

http://nextcar.com.au/i.chrysler.300C.sketch.05dec.jpg

I love design renders where you see forms and character lines coming together here and there that will eventually come to light (or not!) on a production car years later. It's a shame there isn't any actual proof the original design was any bolder or subjectively better than what we got. At this point the most likely scenario is there was never a design that got watered down by the late SM, and that the story of such happenings came from one designer with a chip on their shoulder or a petty grudge. After all, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

As for the end of the current car, my dream is: aggressive front and rear fascias, a bigger, more pronounced spoiler like the current 300S has, the AWD Trackhawk drivetrain and of course the 6.2L, widebody only, whatever Demon tech they feel would be a nice addition, and a new name:

300X

:D

Talk about going out with a bang, not a whimper! Ahh, if only!
 

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Sometimes when you read their reasoning, you can see that the person with a grudge is in the wrong. Sometimes, of course, they are right. But there are a lot of compromises cars have to go through just to be built in quantities greater than five!
 

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Ram's have less rebates than the 300 does... that includes 2018 Rams. A truck is also a much more profitable vehicle than the 300 for Chrysler so they can afford the increased rebates, margins on trucks are massive compared to a 300.

The 2019 Ram is selling like hot cakes and currently averages about $1500 in incentives.
It depends on your region. The classic 2018 Rams have a larger incentive than the 300. I know, I watch the pricing every week. The wife wants a truck based vehicle (replacing her aging 300K miles T&C).
 

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I believe the next gen 300 would sale (based on the Manta design). Longs as the interior is updated to match entry level luxury full size and electronic upgrades. What is needed is hybrid variant for those who want the full sedan and save on fuel.

The 300 by the way does sell well for NOT being advertised and in my region at a lower incentive. I am fan of the CPO 300C with MOPAR 1 million mile warranty. These models that the local dealer receives has all options. I believe these cars are corporate fleet.
 

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Im actually seriously considering trading in my Mustang for a 17 CPO 300S Hemi with the Alloy Edition package and all of the bells and whistles. Miles are kinda high(35k) but I feel like the price is good($26k) since it was a $48k new car. Anything I should look out for on these?
 

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Im actually seriously considering trading in my Mustang for a 17 CPO 300S Hemi with the Alloy Edition package and all of the bells and whistles. Miles are kinda high(35k) but I feel like the price is good($26k) since it was a $48k new car. Anything I should look out for on these?
If you drive over 100 miles a day, then opt for the million mile warranty. It usually around 3500-4200 dollars but well worth it if you are planning to do over 200,000 miles.

CPO means the dealership has verified the critical parts and ensure recall is completed. After driving my 2012 (approaching 200K miles) I would opt for all options. I even installed two dash cams, front and back.

Look for a corporate car (one owner) with less than 20K miles.
 

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If you drive over 100 miles a day, then opt for the million mile warranty. It usually around 3500-4200 dollars but well worth it if you are planning to do over 200,000 miles.

CPO means the dealership has verified the critical parts and ensure recall is completed. After driving my 2012 (approaching 200K miles) I would opt for all options. I even installed two dash cams, front and back.

Look for a corporate car (one owner) with less than 20K miles.
This one is a one owner car, I drive maybe 40 miles a day during the week and maybe half that during the weekends.
 

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Original sketch


2001 Chrysler Nassau Concept


2003 Chrysler 300C Prototype


2004 Chrysler 300C Concept


2006 Chrysler 300 SRT-8


2011 Chrysler 300C


2012 Chrysler 300C SRT8


2015 Chrysler 300S


2017 Chrysler 300S Sport

The design of the 300 has evolved greatly since its original design by Robert Habbach in the early 2000s.
 

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Original sketch


2001 Chrysler Nassau Concept


2003 Chrysler 300C Prototype


2004 Chrysler 300C Concept


2006 Chrysler 300 SRT-8


2011 Chrysler 300C


2012 Chrysler 300C SRT8


2015 Chrysler 300S


2017 Chrysler 300S Sport

The design of the 300 has evolved greatly since its original design by Robert Habbach in the early 2000s.
Still gets my attention every time one drives by.....I do miss my 300S.....
 

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I don't get the need to make it appear as if the 300 is alive and well. We know it's dead after 2019.

While the "Full-Sedan Isn't Dead Yet" line may have some truth to it, it doesn't apply to the 300. So why bother with the misdirection?
 

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I don't get the need to make it appear as if the 300 is alive and well. We know it's dead after 2019.

While the "Full-Sedan Isn't Dead Yet" line may have some truth to it, it doesn't apply to the 300. So why bother with the misdirection?
We don’t “know” that it’s dead after 2019. Why discontinue it before the Charger and Challenger are redesigned so there will be a void in plant space?
 
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