Why would you lie to your repair shop?
by Beth
When I was a Computer Science
major in the late 1980s, before I realized that majoring in Computer Science
meant more time in the computer lab and less time drinking beer, I learned the term GIGO: "garbage
in, garbage out." It means if there is a flaw in your data, your results will be worthless, so it is of utmost
importance to start with good information before you even attempt to begin an analysis or a solution.
When something goes wrong with your car, it will impact your life or at
least your day in some way, so it continually amazes me when people outright
lie about the steps in the process that led up to the trip on the rollback. They withhold information entirely, lie about things they saw and did,
and exaggerate or minimize the symptoms. Worse is when there is more than
one driver involved, and you get conflicting stories from the two drivers, and the resulting confusion makes it very hard to diagnose the problem.
I really and truly want someone to explain to me why they do this. When
things go badly, and we are at the point with a customer where we have
discovered that they have sent us on a wild goose chase due to lack of
information or misleading information, we are often so frustrated at that
point that the conversations lose their usual civility. Or, we are
completely and totally unable to stick to our original quote because we made
the quote based on the information we were given at the time and the reality
of the job turned out to be much different. These are the conversations that
end with either "Don't ever come back here again!" or "I'm never coming back here again!" so I never actually find out the answer to my question, "Why
did you lie about this?"
I have some theories. Maybe they are afraid they will appear stupid. Maybe
they are concerned that if they explain how bad it really is, that it will
cost more, so it's a sort of misplaced idealism/naïvité/hopefulness that is
really more a state of denial. Maybe they are afraid that if they admit any
fault, their spouse will be upset. Whatever the reasons are, it is a serious
hindrance to getting the vehicle repaired quickly, accurately, and without unexpected expense, and it makes no sense to me.
Depending on the nature of the work needed, diagnostic procedures are
becoming more and more sophisticated, and some do not need human dialogue to
be performed. Don't count on that in every situation, though. It seems to me
that the best course of action is present the information you know, be
honest about what happened when, and if you did something to the car, tell
us what you did. I do not know your personal consequences - spousal
reaction, parent grounding you, etc. but if you give us garbage information
to work with, the likely result will be a useless quote, incorrect
diagnosis, and a not-fixed car.
There are many mysteries to be solved in the course of auto repair, and
while many techs enjoy the challenge and like to accomplish the solution to
a problem, in many cases it is not needed to add to our challenges by muddying up the details. Not every trip to the auto repair shop should be
like an episode of Scooby Doo where we're trying to not only solve the
mystery, but figure out who the bad guy is and why they are wearing the face of someone they are not. You should not walk in the door pretending to be
Straightforward McHonesty, the Careful Caretaker, when you are actually
Stubborn McNotmyfault who couldn't be bothered with pulling over when the
oil light was flashing, and instead of telling us you saw the oil light
flashing and chose to keep driving, you shrug and say "I don't know, it just stalled and wouldn't restart. I had no idea anything was wrong."
Example: the case of the ghost noise
listens that we are idiots who can't fix cars. The things they say about us
can't be unsaid, and really, is this our fault? Can someone explain to me where we went wrong here?
-Beth
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by Beth
When I was a Computer Science
major in the late 1980s, before I realized that majoring in Computer Science
meant more time in the computer lab and less time drinking beer, I learned the term GIGO: "garbage
in, garbage out." It means if there is a flaw in your data, your results will be worthless, so it is of utmost
importance to start with good information before you even attempt to begin an analysis or a solution.
When something goes wrong with your car, it will impact your life or at
least your day in some way, so it continually amazes me when people outright
lie about the steps in the process that led up to the trip on the rollback. They withhold information entirely, lie about things they saw and did,
and exaggerate or minimize the symptoms. Worse is when there is more than
one driver involved, and you get conflicting stories from the two drivers, and the resulting confusion makes it very hard to diagnose the problem.
I really and truly want someone to explain to me why they do this. When
things go badly, and we are at the point with a customer where we have
discovered that they have sent us on a wild goose chase due to lack of
information or misleading information, we are often so frustrated at that
point that the conversations lose their usual civility. Or, we are
completely and totally unable to stick to our original quote because we made
the quote based on the information we were given at the time and the reality
of the job turned out to be much different. These are the conversations that
end with either "Don't ever come back here again!" or "I'm never coming back here again!" so I never actually find out the answer to my question, "Why
did you lie about this?"
I have some theories. Maybe they are afraid they will appear stupid. Maybe
they are concerned that if they explain how bad it really is, that it will
cost more, so it's a sort of misplaced idealism/naïvité/hopefulness that is
really more a state of denial. Maybe they are afraid that if they admit any
fault, their spouse will be upset. Whatever the reasons are, it is a serious
hindrance to getting the vehicle repaired quickly, accurately, and without unexpected expense, and it makes no sense to me.
Depending on the nature of the work needed, diagnostic procedures are
becoming more and more sophisticated, and some do not need human dialogue to
be performed. Don't count on that in every situation, though. It seems to me
that the best course of action is present the information you know, be
honest about what happened when, and if you did something to the car, tell
us what you did. I do not know your personal consequences - spousal
reaction, parent grounding you, etc. but if you give us garbage information
to work with, the likely result will be a useless quote, incorrect
diagnosis, and a not-fixed car.
There are many mysteries to be solved in the course of auto repair, and
while many techs enjoy the challenge and like to accomplish the solution to
a problem, in many cases it is not needed to add to our challenges by muddying up the details. Not every trip to the auto repair shop should be
like an episode of Scooby Doo where we're trying to not only solve the
mystery, but figure out who the bad guy is and why they are wearing the face of someone they are not. You should not walk in the door pretending to be
Straightforward McHonesty, the Careful Caretaker, when you are actually
Stubborn McNotmyfault who couldn't be bothered with pulling over when the
oil light was flashing, and instead of telling us you saw the oil light
flashing and chose to keep driving, you shrug and say "I don't know, it just stalled and wouldn't restart. I had no idea anything was wrong."
Example: the case of the ghost noise
Example: the case of the two faces
I have no doubt they totally blame us for this, and tell anyone who
listens that we are idiots who can't fix cars. The things they say about us
can't be unsaid, and really, is this our fault? Can someone explain to me where we went wrong here?
-Beth
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